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Postby CR » Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:53 pm

Question from Administrators and Moderators of HC

I have a question for the administrators and moderators of History Channel Forum. You have deleted 2/3 of the responds to this topic (Which I did not get to read). You may justify that those responds were out of order, but how can you justify the reason to delete my post? My post was neither obscene nor profane. My post was a respond to the people (Pro or Con) who replied to my post. There was no reason for you to delete my post except that you did not like my post.

If you do not allow people to express free speech and practice healthy arguments, then why create a forum?

Why don’t you just preach your version of history in your two cable channels and have a captivated audience to watch with their mouths zipped close?

When Alexander movie came out, we went through the same ordeal with owners and operators of Alexander Movie Forum! They deleted our post because it would hurt the DVD Sales!

History Channel and its forum are based in USA. America is a democratic nation with a constitution to protect freedom of speech. Do you respect the constitution of United States of America or not?

If yes, then how can you delete a post for no reason except your Anti Iran and Anti Persian historical and political bias? What happened to democracy?

The post you deleted is somewhere in this thread:

http://iranpoliticsclub.net/club/viewtopic.php?t=1287

Go over it and show me obscenity or profanity?

Unlike your forum, we do not censor, delete, revise and shut people’s mouths. Our forum is true example of democracy:

http://iranpoliticsclub.net/club/

If you want to start deleting posts because of your historical and political preferences and establish Fascism in your forum, then please go all the way and delete this complete threat, because people will express themselves (Pro or Con) and you will not be able to shut their mouths?

What do you have to say for yourselves?

I will post the same post under the 300 Spartans thread in IPC forum for people to view. In case you decide to delete this post as well, then I can have a piece of mind that the duplicate exists there.


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Postby CR » Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:17 am

Satrap:
"I'm not at all familiar with the state of Iranian cinema but it would be extremely interesting how they would have portrayed the Greco-Persian Wars on film."


Actually the Persian Cinema is world famous for its art, intellectual and indi award wining movies, but the present Iranian regime has no intention to produce big budget ancient historical movies, not because of money but because the present Iranian regime is not a Persian regime but an Islamic regime.

Our country is under occupation of Islam and Arabo-Muslim regime. The Iranian regime is against everything Persian and pro everything Arabo-Islamic.

We are fighting an enemy within. We are fighting Islam. These people are not Iranian. The Iranian government represents Hezbollah, not Iran.

As you can see, we, the true Persians are fighting in many fronts. We are fighting the occupational Iranian government who wants to Arabo-Islamisize our culture inside Iran. We are fighting the West and Hollywood who wants to Westoxicate our culture outside Iran. On top of it all, now we have the History Channel and its forum Moderators who want to propagate their version of history and shut our mouth!

We are fighting in many fronts, inside and outside Iran to save our Persian Culture.

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Postby IPC » Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:41 pm

from: George Goodyear enawn@att.net
to: IPC.WebMistress@gmail.com

date: Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 2:09 AM
subject: Leonidas


On this website you state that Leonidas is one of "many petty kings"
although it you seem to infer that Leonidas killed Xerxes messenger.
Well was he important enough to be sent a messenger or not? And to be
given many opportunities to be a slave is not an opportunity. One other
thing, I have a problem with. For so few to stand against so many is not
indicative of a coward. What ever a movie is made about an historical
event is going to be skewed by time and interpretation. And by which
ever side a person supports. The one thing you can say about these men,
is there was not a coward among them!!!!

The battle of Platea the Greeks were out numbered again and again they
prevailed! During this time there were people of the Jewish faith in
Persia. Today how many live in Iran. With the President of Iran looking
to eliminate the State of Israel and doing so through the funding of
Hamas and other terrorist groups, you would think you would try to
cultivate some good feeling from a website like this, not insult what
was the most important battle for Western civilization. Ooops what was I
thinking you don't want the west to have a civilizaton of any kind.

Of course this is just my humble opinion, and not all inclusive with
total historical fact. How could it be? To the victor go the spoils and
the view of history.

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300 Spartans, the Real Story

Postby Ahreeman X » Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:39 pm

300 Spartans, the Real Story

Here is an interesting one:

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From: Chai Adam Mason < …@... >
To: IPC Founder < IPC.Founder@gmail.com >
Date: Tue, May 24, 2011 at 2:55 PM
Subject: 300 Spartans, The Real Story!

Dear Ahreeman X

My name is Chai Adam Mason, I'm an Englishman (for past sins, no doubt) and I am writing to you because I have just read this article with your name at the top

300 Spartans, The Real Story!
A Historically Accurate Review on 300, The Movie (2007)
at this link


http://iranpoliticsclub.net/history/300/

And I felt compelled to contact you right away due to the fascinating nature of the article.
Basically I was just sitting at home and about to eat dinner and I thought 'I want to watch a film' as I love films, especially big budget hollywood action films (yes, a vice indeed) and I found the film '300' on a disc (I download most films free from the filesharing networks).

So I started watching this film, which I saw once before in 2007 (also downloaded haha) and I thought 'I wonder what the real history of this battle was', so of course, I went to my computer and typed it in, opened a few pages and came upon your review. So the battle was called 'the battle of Thermopylae' and as you recounted it was quite similar to the story we have and was told in the film, (is it Herodotus who gave us the popular account?) but it was a true event which means there was actually no bias on who was right or wrong, it was just some humans, all equally fallible, acting on impulses caused by some external influences or other. I'm not really that keen on the film and I actually got quite bored of it halfway through, though the colour grading post production is really well done and in that first battle the cinematography is really really amazing, so fair play to them. It's quite hilarious, just as a passing note, that the guy who plays kind Leonidas is Scottish, the guy who plays the deformed Spartan is Welsh and the narrator, the bloke who lost his eye who was also 'Faramir' in Peter Jackson's 'Lord of the Rings' is a Kiwi [i.e. from New Zealand]. I am indeed however aware without any prior knowledge that the film is biased, it's obvious that the Spartans are viewed as the noble protagonists and the saracens and persians demonized as the antagonists, as is often so, this portrayal is neither really fair or historically accurate. I am also aware, by the emphasis of many journalist articles in England and America of the clear possibility of American 'anti-middle-eastern' propaganda, if it wasn't intended to be, it certainly does a very good job besides.

There is a habit in one's culture to naturally support one side of any historical account, or series of accounts, or general sense of history as being in support of one's culture. This would basically be attached to any sense of personal pride regarding one's own culture, or a common sense of 'nationalism' which world historian's seem to say is a fairly recent phenomenon, quite separate from any sense of superiority based on race, religion, language or culture, but a complex combination of quite separate but connected elements in modern society. I must say I have a few things which make me fell a sense of patriotism regarding my home of 'Great Britain', most of all the fact that regardless of how unfair or brutal our empire of a hundred and fifty years ago sometimes was in the colonies and in its treatment of 'primitive' peoples, and it genuinely did fuck up a lot of places, ...here at home there has long been a sense of duty and enthusiasm regarding giving protection and asylum to a vast variety of outsiders, all who have contributed to making a rich (though sometimes slightly confused) 'new' Britain, UK or England (we have so many names it's confusing) and although we contributed in the unfortunate era of trading slaves, predominantly from Africa, we contributed greatly to the abolition of slavery, at least on a grand scale (though there is still some institutional racism embedded in the system but it's only to be expected). Apart from anything else, my ancestors here in England (well, Henry the 8th, and I don't think I'm one of his descendants) contributed to liberating us from that boring catholicism, by protestantism, and though it lead to endless civil strife, it also lead to a fertile ground for Atheism which will probably be the dominant 'faith' in the UK, if it isn't already. There are a few other things, cultural and scholarly that indelibly makes a mark whether in a little or a big way, such as a seemingly endlessly innovative music culture in the UK, and several contemporary scientific discoveries e.g. in the 19th century the Darwinian Revolution which is still sending shockwaves throughout the human world. But I digress, I'm not trying to sell the greatness of my country. In fact I wouldn't call myself proud of it or a patriot of any kind, regardless of being impressed with some of its individual contributions. I've always harboured a kind of suspicion of the establishment, and of the juridical system though it seems fair and could be a lot worse, and have often wondered things like 'are we actually a democracy or is there just an illusion of one and we're all just being played for fools', and I have also wondered to what extent that Socialist Communism, which was of course INVENTED here in London, (before the whole disaster in the USSR and Rep. China), might have creeped silently into some small corner of the system... Of course I could be just a little paranoid from reading those famous dystopian novels by Aldous Huxley and George Orwell. Of course though it pretty much took till the mid eighties to recover from the 2nd world war, we have been better off than our cousins in Germany before that period in the nineties (wow, so recent) with the fall of the 'iron curtain'.

Anyway, I hugely digress, as what we're discussing, indeed what I wrote this message for is about HISTORY. Personally I am very ignorant, a state that is typical in a decadent nation like my own. I suddenly have the feeling, though I am not that familiar with the work of Hegel, that his thesis regarding the dialectical nature of history is now a legacy felt upon this fair island, as it's final stage, and that we are in a state of decline in all manner of ways. Even the United States is starting to look a little shaky - psychologically, I don't think they have quite recovered from that event now simply called "911", though I'm not keen on conspiracy theories there really was something very wrong about that whole event.
Our understanding, collectively of history, in the English language, follows a fairly straight path. Civilisations rise and fall. There are high points and low points, and those following after often build on the foundations which were left behind (the 'Romans', a case in point).

Just in the last few months I have become obsessed with history, however having never taken any notice really of it, except for things which I learned accidentally (I don't even remember learning much in school) I have to start at the beginning. A pretty good place, I reckon. As well as wanting to find out about world history and all those amazing antecedent stories from all human experiences in the world, I figured I really ought to begin with English history, which of course includes the rest of this island (Wales, Scotland and a little bit of Ireland, strangely) and also Europe, where the people on this island came from came from, apparently first when it was connected to the rest of Europe, and the crusades and colonizations as well. Like the history of any other country with close neighbours, many other countries have to be considered as well. So I began to amass all I could find about world and European history, and not having much money for books, I've spent days downloading for free all kinds of materials in audio format, lectures, books, &c. all in English - unfortunately I can only study in English as I cannot use any other languages, but fortunately as English is the 'lingua franca' of the world, there are endless materials available of all kinds in English - there are also endless amazing texts from the middle east, Russia and surrounding asian countries, China and the countries between eastern europe and India not to mention India - which have not been translated to English. many of them have, which is amazing. I would count the Indonesian archipelago and Africa and the Americas but I think they have more of an oral tradition. Since English is spoken in America, due to the first English protestant settlers, I have access to an enormous scholarly source, as there are some very great teachers and learning materials available from the U.S.A. However how accurate is it going to be? I'd like to think that, in the last 15 years at least, scholars have a more realistic and objective view of history. Yet Herodotus, who you of course mentioned, is known to our 'western' civilisation as the 'father of history'. Quite a title indeed, though I've not studied him myself, I'd like to hope that American and European scholars today would know which parts were accurate and which were flagrant, as you infer. Now I must admit I know next to nothing about Iranian history. I know hardly anything about her culture either, but I'd like to find out, and to get to my point at last, the one thing missing in your review, though I felt it was certainly fairly stated, were sources in support of the Persian history of what I understand are called the 'Greco-Persian wars'. Recently I started to study philosophy which I think started me off on this journey of discovery, and where philosophy begins in the western tradition, is Greece. Go to any class in western europe on western philosophy and of course it will start right off with Socrates, Plato and Aristotle. Of course I've always known the names, but I'd not read them until recently. I've become quite besotted with ancient Greek culture, and discovered really how much of an impact it has made on our culture. Many of our richest words are from the ancient Greek. It is in fact quite difficult to find anything out about modern Greek culture, because of the shadow case by the 'classical' world. It is also generally known that the middle east is the 'cradle of civilisation', that persia, and before it Assyria, and before that Mesapotamia (which is now Iraq, right?) which is famously where the Gilgamesh text was found, somewhere in the sand (the "flood tablet" is here in the British Museum, not sure who they stole it from, it's one of the most important artifacts in there I think) so it doesn't surprise me when you mention the 8,000 years old culture of (what is today called) Iran. I'd be really interested to find out more about Iran and it's history and the history and the geography of the Middle East. Indeed it is as crucial to our cultural origins is the land of Africa to our biological ones. I read your page 'manifesto' about the Iran Politics Club, it's quite stirring. I was pained to hear your description of the 'Islamic Theocratic Beast' which plights the land. Not being raised on any religion myself, the whole thing with religious conviction I find simply bewildering. Just presently I am listening to audiobooks about religion - one of them I truly recommend, I think it's by an American and it's called "The Faith Instinct: How REligion Evolved and Why it Endures" by Nicholas Wade. It is a genuinely balanced, democratic but thoroughly researched book - it's not polemical toward religion like so many others, but more of an anthropological excursion into the history of religion and its possible, and likely origins. I read your bio page as well, and you claim four generations of Atheism, huh? Most impressive, I don't know many people who can do that ha ha! Your family must be a fan of that Darwin guy then.

Anyway it's getting late and I've typed too much. Thanks for your website, and it makes it much easier that it's in English! Your English is pretty damn good by the way, there are only a few very minor grammar mistakes, which don't affect comprehension. it's interesting to start looking at what's happening in the world - the internet is amazing for this... and the "news" is still a mess, I'm sure it actually makes it harder for good people to make sense of what's happening in the world. We have to of course have the courage to go out and find out for ourselves, which I have yet to do. For it's only when we take effort to see what's really happening that we can consciously work toward making positive changes in the world.
Thanks for taking time to read this stupidly long email!

Kind regards

Chai Adam Mason, South London, UK


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From: Ahreeman X
To: Chai Adam Mason

My Good Gentleman Chai:

I love that name “Chai”. You tell me that you know zilch about the Persian culture, but your own very name is Persian “Chai” which means “Tea”! Tea Time, British Style! OK, let’s start the Darjiling Tea Time, Persian Style:

Thank you for your readership, interest, kind words and enthusiasm about the Persian History, Culture, IPC and me.

My good man, you sound like a movie enthusiast. Unfortunately the movie which you stumbled upon (300 Spartans) is not a history movie, yet a history spoof made by Hollywood Bozos! The Special Effects and Cinematography are great, yet many simply do not comprehend that this is a Comic Book Spoof and not Real History.

As a historian, author and a journalist, I cannot write a bunch of sources under each of my writings, simply because:

a) I do not have time.
b) It is not necessary.
c) It is irrelevant.
d) I am the source. I write history.

However if you insist on reading some of my sources, then comprehend that the sources for this particular article are the same as my sources stated at the end (final page) of my various books such as:

8000 Years of Iranian History!
http://iranpoliticsclub.net/library/eng ... /index.htm

222 Years of Struggle for Independence of Iran
http://iranpoliticsclub.net/library/eng ... /index.htm

History of Federalism in Iran
http://iranpoliticsclub.net/history/fed ... /index.htm

etc.

Also review my various books and articles under:

Iran History
http://iranpoliticsclub.net/history/index.htm

Iran Online English Library
http://iranpoliticsclub.net/library/eng ... /index.htm

Many of my sources are listed under my books. On the other hand, you must understand that my sources are in fact a life time of studying and writing history. I am the source. I do not just copy paste history but I write the history. I am a “Scientific Historian” (I look at history as a living and evolving science). There are very few of us (on the planet) whom are taking this approach towards the history. But of course my 300 Spartans article / review was not meant to be solid dry history, yet in fact it was a critic and mocking of the Hollywood History created from Hollywood Historians’ rectums!

Same as you, I am a movie enthusiast and indeed I love historical movies (preferably the accurate ones). Hollywood Spoofs like 300 Spartans and Alexander (read my review on that one) are not true history but they Are biased history spoofs.

If you are interested in learning of the Persian History, read IPC History Index, my books and articles, also keep an eye on my future books and articles.

You want to know about Persian history and culture? Start from Persian Cuisine. It is the best in the globe. There are some good Persian restaurants in London. There is a large Persian population in London:

Iranian Population Inside and Outside Iran
http://iranpoliticsclub.net/library/ira ... /index.htm

these would also be informative:

Iran or Persia? Iranian or Persian? Farsi or Persian?
Country, People and Language, Which is Correct and Why?
http://iranpoliticsclub.net/history/ira ... /index.htm

Civilization: Persia versus Greece and Rome
http://iranpoliticsclub.net/history/civ ... /index.htm

Britain is a historical country which basically borrowed its civilization, culture and wealth from colonializing the globe. In all fairness, the British truly did not invent and dedicate anything to the global civilization, history or cuisine, well hmmmmm except Fish and Chips (I kill myself)! Ok now I am maybe a bit biased!

It is also well unfortunate that today’s Britain (the same as rest of the Europe) is run by Liberal Socialist policies and Multi Culturalism. Britain had built herself on shoulders of many nations and now paybacks are a bitch! Britain is now drowning in so many foreign cultures that the British culture is basically being destroyed and vanished!

In USA, we are trying to avoid all the mistakes which you have made in Europe (Multi Culturalism, Socialism, Open Door Immigration, Welfare State, Entitlement Mentality, etc.). At least us Conservatives are trying to avoid America to become Europe. The last thing we need is another version of:

Englandistan
Socialist Kingdom of Britain
Or
Social Islamist United Kingdom
Or worst
Swedish Socialism

But then again you people are used to the absolute rule of the Monarchs, its revised version of Constitutional Monarchy or today’s Social Islamist Holy British version!

Even though I am an Aryan Persian, yet I do not consider myself a citizen of IRI (Islamic Republic of Iran). I am an American Citizen because I believe in what America stands for. Once we overthrow Islam and Islamic Constitution in Iran, then once again I will call myself also a citizen of Iran.

Today’s Iran, even though a regional and a continental power, yet still is a Shiite Hole. I cannot call myself a citizen of a nation under the occupation of Islam and half breed Arabs. I do not believe in what IRI stands for, so how can I call myself a citizen of IRI? I lived in US since I was 17 (1979 Islamic Revolution).

Democracy, Federalism, Secularism, Freedom and Patriotism (American Style) is what I am all about. Iran is destined to change (it is a historical destiny). It may take a century but the same as USSR, the IRI and all totalitarian systems are bound to fall. In a meantime, I prefer to live in a free, capitalist system rather than a government controlled Socialist Europe or Islamist Middle East.

Yes my friend, we still have idiots such as Hussein Obama whom are grasping what has failed in Europe (Socialism) and Middle East (Islam).

I leave you with these thoughts:

If Islam had never entered Iran on the 7th century AD,
Or
If Reza Khan Pahlavi was stubborn enough (despite the will of the unholy alliance of the Monarchists and Shiite) to end the Monarchy and start a Republic on 1925,

Then today’s Iran would have been heaven and still cradle of civilization.
Ifs ifs buts buts and now unfortunately we are under the occupation of Arabo-Muslim Half-Breed baboons such as IRGC, Imam and Ahmadinejad.

Not to worry, future is bright.

Thank you for your letter. Keep reading IPC, be in touch and do not hesitate to register and post in the club:

IPC Forum
http://iranpoliticsclub.net/club/

As you can see, I am dead busy, yet finding your e-mail very interesting, I have finally answered it (3.5 months late). For God’s sake, start using paragraphs so it is easy to read!

Best to you

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300 Spartans, the Real Story

Postby Ahreeman X » Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:40 pm

300 Spartans, the Real Story

Here is an interesting one:

* * *

From: Chai Adam Mason < …@... >
To: IPC Founder < IPC.Founder@gmail.com >
Date: Tue, May 24, 2011 at 2:55 PM
Subject: 300 Spartans, The Real Story!

Dear Ahreeman X

My name is Chai Adam Mason, I'm an Englishman (for past sins, no doubt) and I am writing to you because I have just read this article with your name at the top

300 Spartans, The Real Story!
A Historically Accurate Review on 300, The Movie (2007)
at this link


http://iranpoliticsclub.net/history/300/

And I felt compelled to contact you right away due to the fascinating nature of the article.
Basically I was just sitting at home and about to eat dinner and I thought 'I want to watch a film' as I love films, especially big budget hollywood action films (yes, a vice indeed) and I found the film '300' on a disc (I download most films free from the filesharing networks).

So I started watching this film, which I saw once before in 2007 (also downloaded haha) and I thought 'I wonder what the real history of this battle was', so of course, I went to my computer and typed it in, opened a few pages and came upon your review. So the battle was called 'the battle of Thermopylae' and as you recounted it was quite similar to the story we have and was told in the film, (is it Herodotus who gave us the popular account?) but it was a true event which means there was actually no bias on who was right or wrong, it was just some humans, all equally fallible, acting on impulses caused by some external influences or other. I'm not really that keen on the film and I actually got quite bored of it halfway through, though the colour grading post production is really well done and in that first battle the cinematography is really really amazing, so fair play to them. It's quite hilarious, just as a passing note, that the guy who plays kind Leonidas is Scottish, the guy who plays the deformed Spartan is Welsh and the narrator, the bloke who lost his eye who was also 'Faramir' in Peter Jackson's 'Lord of the Rings' is a Kiwi [i.e. from New Zealand]. I am indeed however aware without any prior knowledge that the film is biased, it's obvious that the Spartans are viewed as the noble protagonists and the saracens and persians demonized as the antagonists, as is often so, this portrayal is neither really fair or historically accurate. I am also aware, by the emphasis of many journalist articles in England and America of the clear possibility of American 'anti-middle-eastern' propaganda, if it wasn't intended to be, it certainly does a very good job besides.

There is a habit in one's culture to naturally support one side of any historical account, or series of accounts, or general sense of history as being in support of one's culture. This would basically be attached to any sense of personal pride regarding one's own culture, or a common sense of 'nationalism' which world historian's seem to say is a fairly recent phenomenon, quite separate from any sense of superiority based on race, religion, language or culture, but a complex combination of quite separate but connected elements in modern society. I must say I have a few things which make me fell a sense of patriotism regarding my home of 'Great Britain', most of all the fact that regardless of how unfair or brutal our empire of a hundred and fifty years ago sometimes was in the colonies and in its treatment of 'primitive' peoples, and it genuinely did fuck up a lot of places, ...here at home there has long been a sense of duty and enthusiasm regarding giving protection and asylum to a vast variety of outsiders, all who have contributed to making a rich (though sometimes slightly confused) 'new' Britain, UK or England (we have so many names it's confusing) and although we contributed in the unfortunate era of trading slaves, predominantly from Africa, we contributed greatly to the abolition of slavery, at least on a grand scale (though there is still some institutional racism embedded in the system but it's only to be expected). Apart from anything else, my ancestors here in England (well, Henry the 8th, and I don't think I'm one of his descendants) contributed to liberating us from that boring catholicism, by protestantism, and though it lead to endless civil strife, it also lead to a fertile ground for Atheism which will probably be the dominant 'faith' in the UK, if it isn't already. There are a few other things, cultural and scholarly that indelibly makes a mark whether in a little or a big way, such as a seemingly endlessly innovative music culture in the UK, and several contemporary scientific discoveries e.g. in the 19th century the Darwinian Revolution which is still sending shockwaves throughout the human world. But I digress, I'm not trying to sell the greatness of my country. In fact I wouldn't call myself proud of it or a patriot of any kind, regardless of being impressed with some of its individual contributions. I've always harboured a kind of suspicion of the establishment, and of the juridical system though it seems fair and could be a lot worse, and have often wondered things like 'are we actually a democracy or is there just an illusion of one and we're all just being played for fools', and I have also wondered to what extent that Socialist Communism, which was of course INVENTED here in London, (before the whole disaster in the USSR and Rep. China), might have creeped silently into some small corner of the system... Of course I could be just a little paranoid from reading those famous dystopian novels by Aldous Huxley and George Orwell. Of course though it pretty much took till the mid eighties to recover from the 2nd world war, we have been better off than our cousins in Germany before that period in the nineties (wow, so recent) with the fall of the 'iron curtain'.

Anyway, I hugely digress, as what we're discussing, indeed what I wrote this message for is about HISTORY. Personally I am very ignorant, a state that is typical in a decadent nation like my own. I suddenly have the feeling, though I am not that familiar with the work of Hegel, that his thesis regarding the dialectical nature of history is now a legacy felt upon this fair island, as it's final stage, and that we are in a state of decline in all manner of ways. Even the United States is starting to look a little shaky - psychologically, I don't think they have quite recovered from that event now simply called "911", though I'm not keen on conspiracy theories there really was something very wrong about that whole event.
Our understanding, collectively of history, in the English language, follows a fairly straight path. Civilisations rise and fall. There are high points and low points, and those following after often build on the foundations which were left behind (the 'Romans', a case in point).

Just in the last few months I have become obsessed with history, however having never taken any notice really of it, except for things which I learned accidentally (I don't even remember learning much in school) I have to start at the beginning. A pretty good place, I reckon. As well as wanting to find out about world history and all those amazing antecedent stories from all human experiences in the world, I figured I really ought to begin with English history, which of course includes the rest of this island (Wales, Scotland and a little bit of Ireland, strangely) and also Europe, where the people on this island came from came from, apparently first when it was connected to the rest of Europe, and the crusades and colonizations as well. Like the history of any other country with close neighbours, many other countries have to be considered as well. So I began to amass all I could find about world and European history, and not having much money for books, I've spent days downloading for free all kinds of materials in audio format, lectures, books, &c. all in English - unfortunately I can only study in English as I cannot use any other languages, but fortunately as English is the 'lingua franca' of the world, there are endless materials available of all kinds in English - there are also endless amazing texts from the middle east, Russia and surrounding asian countries, China and the countries between eastern europe and India not to mention India - which have not been translated to English. many of them have, which is amazing. I would count the Indonesian archipelago and Africa and the Americas but I think they have more of an oral tradition. Since English is spoken in America, due to the first English protestant settlers, I have access to an enormous scholarly source, as there are some very great teachers and learning materials available from the U.S.A. However how accurate is it going to be? I'd like to think that, in the last 15 years at least, scholars have a more realistic and objective view of history. Yet Herodotus, who you of course mentioned, is known to our 'western' civilisation as the 'father of history'. Quite a title indeed, though I've not studied him myself, I'd like to hope that American and European scholars today would know which parts were accurate and which were flagrant, as you infer. Now I must admit I know next to nothing about Iranian history. I know hardly anything about her culture either, but I'd like to find out, and to get to my point at last, the one thing missing in your review, though I felt it was certainly fairly stated, were sources in support of the Persian history of what I understand are called the 'Greco-Persian wars'. Recently I started to study philosophy which I think started me off on this journey of discovery, and where philosophy begins in the western tradition, is Greece. Go to any class in western europe on western philosophy and of course it will start right off with Socrates, Plato and Aristotle. Of course I've always known the names, but I'd not read them until recently. I've become quite besotted with ancient Greek culture, and discovered really how much of an impact it has made on our culture. Many of our richest words are from the ancient Greek. It is in fact quite difficult to find anything out about modern Greek culture, because of the shadow case by the 'classical' world. It is also generally known that the middle east is the 'cradle of civilisation', that persia, and before it Assyria, and before that Mesapotamia (which is now Iraq, right?) which is famously where the Gilgamesh text was found, somewhere in the sand (the "flood tablet" is here in the British Museum, not sure who they stole it from, it's one of the most important artifacts in there I think) so it doesn't surprise me when you mention the 8,000 years old culture of (what is today called) Iran. I'd be really interested to find out more about Iran and it's history and the history and the geography of the Middle East. Indeed it is as crucial to our cultural origins is the land of Africa to our biological ones. I read your page 'manifesto' about the Iran Politics Club, it's quite stirring. I was pained to hear your description of the 'Islamic Theocratic Beast' which plights the land. Not being raised on any religion myself, the whole thing with religious conviction I find simply bewildering. Just presently I am listening to audiobooks about religion - one of them I truly recommend, I think it's by an American and it's called "The Faith Instinct: How REligion Evolved and Why it Endures" by Nicholas Wade. It is a genuinely balanced, democratic but thoroughly researched book - it's not polemical toward religion like so many others, but more of an anthropological excursion into the history of religion and its possible, and likely origins. I read your bio page as well, and you claim four generations of Atheism, huh? Most impressive, I don't know many people who can do that ha ha! Your family must be a fan of that Darwin guy then.

Anyway it's getting late and I've typed too much. Thanks for your website, and it makes it much easier that it's in English! Your English is pretty damn good by the way, there are only a few very minor grammar mistakes, which don't affect comprehension. it's interesting to start looking at what's happening in the world - the internet is amazing for this... and the "news" is still a mess, I'm sure it actually makes it harder for good people to make sense of what's happening in the world. We have to of course have the courage to go out and find out for ourselves, which I have yet to do. For it's only when we take effort to see what's really happening that we can consciously work toward making positive changes in the world.
Thanks for taking time to read this stupidly long email!

Kind regards

Chai Adam Mason, South London, UK


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From: Ahreeman X
To: Chai Adam Mason

My Good Gentleman Chai:

I love that name “Chai”. You tell me that you know zilch about the Persian culture, but your own very name is Persian “Chai” which means “Tea”! Tea Time, British Style! OK, let’s start the Darjiling Tea Time, Persian Style:

Thank you for your readership, interest, kind words and enthusiasm about the Persian History, Culture, IPC and me.

My good man, you sound like a movie enthusiast. Unfortunately the movie which you stumbled upon (300 Spartans) is not a history movie, yet a history spoof made by Hollywood Bozos! The Special Effects and Cinematography are great, yet many simply do not comprehend that this is a Comic Book Spoof and not Real History.

As a historian, author and a journalist, I cannot write a bunch of sources under each of my writings, simply because:

a) I do not have time.
b) It is not necessary.
c) It is irrelevant.
d) I am the source. I write history.

However if you insist on reading some of my sources, then comprehend that the sources for this particular article are the same as my sources stated at the end (final page) of my various books such as:

8000 Years of Iranian History!
http://iranpoliticsclub.net/library/eng ... /index.htm

222 Years of Struggle for Independence of Iran
http://iranpoliticsclub.net/library/eng ... /index.htm

History of Federalism in Iran
http://iranpoliticsclub.net/history/fed ... /index.htm

etc.

Also review my various books and articles under:

Iran History
http://iranpoliticsclub.net/history/index.htm

Iran Online English Library
http://iranpoliticsclub.net/library/eng ... /index.htm

Many of my sources are listed under my books. On the other hand, you must understand that my sources are in fact a life time of studying and writing history. I am the source. I do not just copy paste history but I write the history. I am a “Scientific Historian” (I look at history as a living and evolving science). There are very few of us (on the planet) whom are taking this approach towards the history. But of course my 300 Spartans article / review was not meant to be solid dry history, yet in fact it was a critic and mocking of the Hollywood History created from Hollywood Historians’ rectums!

Same as you, I am a movie enthusiast and indeed I love historical movies (preferably the accurate ones). Hollywood Spoofs like 300 Spartans and Alexander (read my review on that one) are not true history but they Are biased history spoofs.

If you are interested in learning of the Persian History, read IPC History Index, my books and articles, also keep an eye on my future books and articles.

You want to know about Persian history and culture? Start from Persian Cuisine. It is the best in the globe. There are some good Persian restaurants in London. There is a large Persian population in London:

Iranian Population Inside and Outside Iran
http://iranpoliticsclub.net/library/ira ... /index.htm

these would also be informative:

Iran or Persia? Iranian or Persian? Farsi or Persian?
Country, People and Language, Which is Correct and Why?
http://iranpoliticsclub.net/history/ira ... /index.htm

Civilization: Persia versus Greece and Rome
http://iranpoliticsclub.net/history/civ ... /index.htm

Britain is a historical country which basically borrowed its civilization, culture and wealth from colonializing the globe. In all fairness, the British truly did not invent and dedicate anything to the global civilization, history or cuisine, well hmmmmm except Fish and Chips (I kill myself)! Ok now I am maybe a bit biased!

It is also well unfortunate that today’s Britain (the same as rest of the Europe) is run by Liberal Socialist policies and Multi Culturalism. Britain had built herself on shoulders of many nations and now paybacks are a bitch! Britain is now drowning in so many foreign cultures that the British culture is basically being destroyed and vanished!

In USA, we are trying to avoid all the mistakes which you have made in Europe (Multi Culturalism, Socialism, Open Door Immigration, Welfare State, Entitlement Mentality, etc.). At least us Conservatives are trying to avoid America to become Europe. The last thing we need is another version of:

Englandistan
Socialist Kingdom of Britain
Or
Social Islamist United Kingdom
Or worst
Swedish Socialism

But then again you people are used to the absolute rule of the Monarchs, its revised version of Constitutional Monarchy or today’s Social Islamist Holy British version!

Even though I am an Aryan Persian, yet I do not consider myself a citizen of IRI (Islamic Republic of Iran). I am an American Citizen because I believe in what America stands for. Once we overthrow Islam and Islamic Constitution in Iran, then once again I will call myself also a citizen of Iran.

Today’s Iran, even though a regional and a continental power, yet still is a Shiite Hole. I cannot call myself a citizen of a nation under the occupation of Islam and half breed Arabs. I do not believe in what IRI stands for, so how can I call myself a citizen of IRI? I lived in US since I was 17 (1979 Islamic Revolution).

Democracy, Federalism, Secularism, Freedom and Patriotism (American Style) is what I am all about. Iran is destined to change (it is a historical destiny). It may take a century but the same as USSR, the IRI and all totalitarian systems are bound to fall. In a meantime, I prefer to live in a free, capitalist system rather than a government controlled Socialist Europe or Islamist Middle East.

Yes my friend, we still have idiots such as Hussein Obama whom are grasping what has failed in Europe (Socialism) and Middle East (Islam).

I leave you with these thoughts:

If Islam had never entered Iran on the 7th century AD,
Or
If Reza Khan Pahlavi was stubborn enough (despite the will of the unholy alliance of the Monarchists and Shiite) to end the Monarchy and start a Republic on 1925,

Then today’s Iran would have been heaven and still cradle of civilization.
Ifs ifs buts buts and now unfortunately we are under the occupation of Arabo-Muslim Half-Breed baboons such as IRGC, Imam and Ahmadinejad.

Not to worry, future is bright.

Thank you for your letter. Keep reading IPC, be in touch and do not hesitate to register and post in the club:

IPC Forum
http://iranpoliticsclub.net/club/

As you can see, I am dead busy, yet finding your e-mail very interesting, I have finally answered it (3.5 months late). For God’s sake, start using paragraphs so it is easy to read!

Best to you

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