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Lawrence Of Persia vs. Ahreeman X: Tribalism & Sociology

Postby IPC » Sun Feb 20, 2005 12:34 am

Dialogue of LOP (Lawrence Of Persia) and AX I

Tribalism!
May 19, 2003


Maloun ol Molk-e Qajar:

<Mebbe.>


The hell is that? A city near Johannesburg or a local Rhodesian dish
consisting of the roasted balls of a young lamb?

<Did AX have IPC Office send the email everywhere from Qazvin to Timbuktu also, if LOP may ask? >


No he did not. Ahreeman is not vain, self centered, bragging & in
need of hand kissing!

<You mean that although you can hold an audience of 500 or more in the palm of your hand you cannot get Cat, Q, Bobby, Anna, etc. to rustle up 3 or 4 of the email addresses each? Easier to get blood out
of a stone or a Mullah?>


Why do you always ask questions that you already have the answer for?
Have you read my recent post where I vastly explained about what each
major member of IPC is doing right now except you & I? It is well
explained that I cannot simply rely on anyone person to come along &
save the day! I cannot even leave someone in charge of everything for
two lousy weeks, because I might come back & see that everything is
simply Fraged! I believe we both know that no one & no one can run
this ship except you know who. I tried to give the responsibility to
one person, I tried to share the responsibility between a few
persons, I tried to elect a committee of persons & leave the ship but
nothing worked! Iranians much rather wasting their time with petty
issues, ball & games than to do something constructive & no one
enjoys baring any responsibility not even digging an E-mail list!
This reminds me of what once IL Duce Benito Mussolini stated to
General Gratciani of the Italian Armed Forces:

"Italians are not the same people as Romans! Through the years, the
mighty Roman Determination, Hard Work & Powerful Will has turned to
the Present Italian Soup! I do not see the Mighty Roman Ethics &
Characteristics amongst our people today! This makes me think that
maybe Italians are degenerated beyond repair, this makes me think
that Italians are not meant to be the Masters of The Earth no more,
yet they are only inferior degenerated sub humans waiting to be
annihilated by the next Superior Civilization! With the present
condition, Italians do not deserve to rule the world! I am terribly
disappointed in our people."

IL Duce stated this right after the disgraceful defeat of the Italian
Armored Divisions in North Africa & Defeat of Balkans in Europe,
where Nazi Forces had to come to his rescue in both situations! After
these events, Fuhrer never looked @ IL Duce the same & as an Equal!

Now, the people around me are the Creme of The Crop, The Brains of
our Civilization, Best of The best, Superior Intellects & Comrades
with Balls of Steel, but, if our best is like this & this is the best
that our best can do, then by Ahuramazda's Will I shall kiss
Salvation of The Persian Civilization Good-bye! I rest my case!

As I stated, there will not always be an Ahreemanocrat to save the
day & the Gap between two Ahreemanocrat can take Quart a Century or
more & thats why we see 24 years of Islamic Regime in power & thats
why our people need to think for themselves, act upon their instinct,
have will power & do hard work to drag themselves out of the Shiite!
I do not see the Horizon full of Heroes. The Heroes are all busy with
their private lives & want to enjoy their spare times than to work
hard in politics to save the Mother Land. The days of Heroes are
gone. I am sorry to state that the Mighty Persian Civilization is on
the Edge of The collapse & a few UberMenches are pulling it to avoid
the Total Fall into the Abyss!

<Has any Ahreemanocrat yet tried to help them do this?>


You cannot help the people who do not want to be helped! And even if
one can conduct a massive campaign to create a huge political party &
to create a major opposition party with both political & military
wings to do a major take over of the Islamic Regime, do you really
think its that easy? For one & only one person to start this process
it takes huge devotion, dedication, love of Nationalism, Massive
Drafting of the qualified forces, running around the United States &
Europe conducting campaigns, meetings, speeches, & political rallies,
etc. Practically one must leave his job, his personal life, his
hobbies to do this. And if he quits his job, then where do you think
he should bring the money from to do this massive campaign? Thats
right, lets hypothetically say that tomorrow, I will quit my jobs
(both of them), my studies (school), my life (personal) & everything
else to full time go into politics. Lets say I start a major
political campaign around USA Universities & Iranian Community. For
how long & for how much do you think that I can finance this campaign
from my own & my families wealth? Eventually, I need to start
accepting campaign donations from Iranian Billionaires & Millionaires
& Public. To accept money from Iranians, means that I have to give
promises to them of the future positions, corporate contracts,
exclusive Deals & special benefits. Eventually I would become a
puppet! Besides, if I want to do the opposite & instead of relying on
the Iranian Billionaires, go & rely on the regular people, then the
job will be much harder!

This means I should start using Democrats methods than Republicans &
in Iranian community I need to start Telethons, Charity Dinners,
Donations & so on. Next thing you know, our great people will start
running their mouth & talking Shiite about me! The accusations will
start from all sides & all enemies of mine! The minute I start
accepting donation & funds from the people, they will start calling
me charlatan, just like they done to Dr. Fereydoun Farokhzad! They
will start creating stories out of their asses about how I collected
a few million & left town to Paris for a vacation instead of training
commandos & buy arms in San Diego!

I know Iranian people, I know my people very well. The minute I start
collecting money, I have to say good bye to my good name! What else
can I do? Oh yes, I can collect funds from CIA, Pentagon, State
Department, etc. Lets imagine I start I doing that. Unlike many other
petty charlatan opposition leaders of Iran whom been begging US
Government for funds & running around DC with their hands open to all
Political Personalities, I can start doing this & with my reputation
& history of struggle, I can easily get the funds to flow towards
IPC. But again, just imagine one lousy paper of a document gets out &
then you will never hear the end of it on how Dr. X is a servant of
CIA!

This leaves me no choice but to fund the movement with my own & my
families money & from time to time, ask comrades in the movement for
a good number of funds. You do not understand how hard it is to run
an operation cross continents with no support from Iranian
Millionaires & Billionaires, American Government, & Regular Iranian
People, do you? You have no idea how hard it is to run such operation
with lack of man power because no one wants to devote time to free
Iran, do you? And do you understand that you must pay people to run
different errands like network, careers, liaisons, grunt work, tech
supplies, hard cover supplies, to provide people to carry funds to
inside Iran, you must pay them, to provide people to carry arms
inside Iran, you must pay them, it takes money, man power, devotion &
will to run such organization. Eventually without sufficient funds,
man power, devotion, Steel Will, everything will come to a halt!

Why do you think The Moral Revolution has started instead of The
Political Revolution? After almost 4 years of hard work, great amount
of funds, family & personal money, devotion of our members inside &
outside, as you see, we are where we are, which is really not that
big of a deal to many! They expected me to be in Tehran by now! As
you see I am still in San Diego! As you see many have disappointed &
left the battle Ground, many do not want to put time or effort, many
cannot afford to keep on working hard & for free & to risk
everything! You will not find many fools like me to work for free,
spend their own money for opposition for many years, put their lives
on the front line & danger & still keep going on & on & on........
not many fools indeed! Thats why you do not see anyone who is even
willing to gather a mailing list for IPC! This is called Reality of
the Iranian Society. Everyone wants Democracy & Freedom of Iran but
no one wants to work to achieve it. The harsh reality! However, you
will find herds & oodles of Baboons on their sweet buns, spending
their leisure time from their work, or even cut from work to write
crap on many Iranian forums! Everyone got an opinion, the opinions
are like assholes & you will find plenty of them, just go to the
usual Zoos that you been traveling to, try these Iranian Forums & you
will find tons of people with no motivation, no life, too much time
on their hands looking for some fun & their fun is to write bull shit
on the Internet, thats all they do & thats all their good for, you
know this better than I do because you go around argue with these
baboons & worthless hopeless waste of breath! Ask any of them to do
anything constructive & they fly away like sparrows! This is Iranians
for you!

<SCI has been around for ten years or more. It is just as censor-free as IPC. In fact SCI is more censor-free. "Spammers" are not banned
there. Why didn't you go there? Did you even know that SCI existed?
Do you bother to go there now?>


SCI is a machine, not a forum. SCI is not a political entity. SCI is
one of the millions of forums made by many Internet Usenet or Regular
Net Systems with no moderation & no philosophy & no ideology & no
mission & no soul & no purpose to continue existing. SCI is not
serving a purpose, SCI is there because it exists for a bunch of
Iranians to shoot shit together. Now do not get me wrong, I find much
more intelligent people in SCI than the combine total of all other
Persian Forums together! But what use are they to me, to Opposition,
to Iran & to Freedom of Iran? No one but no one in SCI would start a
major sacrifice like many of our members inside or outside have done
for 4 years! Many are burned out because they have expected short
time results & can you blame them? As I said, not everyone is a fool
like me to fight against all odds, not even Cat, not even you, not
even Mayaazaar, not even Camran, not even anyone around us! There is
no comparison between the two, IPC & SCI! Its comparing apples &
oranges!

<Centuries? JM has only existed since 1949, hasn't it?>


Are you acting dumb or you really do not understand Persian
Exaggerative Rhetorical Matters of Speech, after all the time that
you have spent with Iranian community?

<What is the difference between Iranians who bash all Monarchists as being Savakis and Dictator Wannabes and Iranians who bash all Jebheis as being Charlatans, Traitors and Irrelevant?>


I do not know about Monarchists who bash Jebhe or Jebheis who bash
Monarchists, but since I was a child, I grew up in a family unit with
a sense of principals & comprehension of what is wrong & what is
right! It is common sense to me that to destroy a functioning regime
(Imperial Regime) instead of Reforming it for better (Constitutional
Monarchy), & to create 24 years of Nightmare & to destroy every
aspect of progress & hope & Freedom in Iran to gain a Theocratic
Regime with a Mullah on the top, is wrong. On the other hand I see
problems with the Imperial Regime but I do not have a second thought
in accepting that the Past Monarchy was progressive, functional,
educative & a working system & this regime is not! You must be blind
not to see this!

Now if you do not see the difference between the Monarchists who
believed in the Old Regime which dedicated a lot to Iran's prosperity
& the Jebheis who actually invented the Islamic Regime to destroy
Iran, then I suggest for you to go to your Doctor & ask for a rapid
scanning of your brain! Neither you or I are Monarchists neither we
are Jebhei, but the problem with you is that with complete lack of
knowledge, you put the two as the same! Monarchists are not the same
as Jebhei. By Monarchists, I am not talking about your Fat Belly Desk
Baller in LA, by Monarchist I am talking about my comrades in IPC who
happen to be Monarchists & they been putting their lives on the front
line & in danger for their nation just like the rest of us. I am
talking about people who been working with us or working for the
cause in the past, present & future. Bee, Sarang, Roya, Baba & many
more that you do not know them. The Monarchists that I know are
opposition but I have never seen a single Jebhei who is working for
or with the opposition, unless the ones that we converted from Jebhei
to opposition inside Iran or over here.

Jebhe Meli Iran has the worst name amongst the political
organizations of Iran, famous by being a two faced, traitor to Iran
not just since 1979, but since 1953!

Jebhe Meli Iran & likes of it, are the reason that Islamic Republic
of Iran is power, simply because they were the creators, preachers &
agitators of the 1979. This is not a myth, this is Iranian History.
It is 24 years that Jebhe Meli Iran is actively defending it's stands
to betray Iran & Irani by cooperating with the regime. Now you are
trying to tell me that they are irrelevant? They are irrelevant @ the
time being, because people like me are busting their balls to expose
them for what they are! They were not irrelevant in 1953 nor 1979 &
they will not be irrelevant in 2004 if people like me would not keep
on exposing their traitor face & keeping on!

Now, if you are too blind to see my purpose to expose Jebhe & likes
of Jebhe & you do not see the reasoning & logic behind my campaign &
IPC's campaign against Jebhe Meli, they you must really take a
reality pill! If you really do not see the difference between a
Constitutionalist Monarchist Active Opposition Member & a Traitor
Opportunist Snake member of Jebhe inside or outside Iran or in the
Cock a Bull Forum that you bother wasting your time in, then you must
really be missing a brain cell or two that I have not noticed lately!

If you want to call this tribalism, then shall it be, more power to
tribalism. If seeing & feeling the justice, truth & right & defending
it is Tribalism, then I am a Tribalist. And whats wrong with
Tribalism? You must be a Tribalist to be pro a movement & believe in
it, hopefully a just cause! I defend what I believe is just & I fight
for it. I defend my stands, & so does every other passionate active
politician or person with a cause. Does this make me tribal? Then by
all means I am a tribal person because I am a fanatic, passionate
warrior when it comes to my beliefs. I am a hard core GOP Member, I
defend Republican Agenda, I defend Capitalism & Free Economy, I
defend Evolution, I am an Anti Religion Atheist when it comes to
philosophy, & when it comes to Iran, I am an Ultra Nationalist, I
worship Aryanism, Pan Iranism, Persian Civilization, Glorious 8000
years history of Iran, legends of Iran & my way will always be the
way of Aryamanesh my Master.

Of Course I am Tribal & my tribe is my beliefs & when it comes to
Iran, I am an Extreme Nationalist. What did you expect? Did you
expect me to be in cahoots with baboons, internationalist, Socialist
Liberals, Opportunists, Traitors, Sell Outs, Arrogant Bastards,
Internet Fascists, Censorship Lovers & Sissy Faggy Pussy Boys of
Jebhe Meli or likes of them? Did you expect me to be Meli Mazhabi
like Nehzat-e Azadi or maybe did you expect me to be Tudehi? Of
course you will see me respecting Active Monarchists whom I consider
also Nationalists but you will see me destroy every inch of prestige
that Jebhe has! I will do my best to Frag Jebhe Meli & its members,
it is one of my greatest honors & national duties to destroy internal
& external enemies of Iran. Jebhe Meli is an internal enemy of Iran &
it is very clear that a Jebhei only cares about his pocket money &
position in the government, thats why they share power & they share
their wives!

What did you expect? I will take Monarchists side any day of the week
over Jebhei Fags! I do not even consider these Mother Fragers
Nationalist, their hearts does not beat for Iran, their hearts beats
for $ & Power. You see, people like me or Mayaazaar, Cat, Camran &
many others like us maybe not Monarchists, & maybe we are true
Republicans but we have no choice but to stick with the Monarchists,
simply because we see Nationalists amongst the Monarchist Values but
all we see is Treason amongst Jebheis Values!

You know very well that I have no problem colliding & working with
Communists, Socialists, Muslim or anyone else who fights against IRI,
but how can you expect me to work with these baboons whom we offered
time over time to join the opposition but they refused & still
sucking Mullahs Dick!?

Am I tribal? Hell Yes I am! I am so Tribal that I will put every
single one of these Jebheis on trial & in the future of Iran! When
the regime change happens, I will be there, & you bet I will be
relevant & you bet I will do my best to Frag the hell out of everyone
who had a love affair with Mullahs for the last 24 years including
your buddies @ Jebhe. You bet I am Tribal & I will Stretch their
Asses as wide as I can in the future regime. You bet I am Tribal & my
tribe's name is Iran.

If one is not tribal, he is not passionate, he is not serious about
his politics, he will not fight for his politics, he will not pick up
a gun to fight for his stands, he will not do hand to hand combat
with the enemy of his land, he will be mediocre, he will be a sissy
faggy useless bum & he will be no use to me, to opposition, to Iran &
to Glory of Mother Persia. By all means I am Tribal. Every single
devoted politician in the history of mankind was tribal & is tribal.

Isn't George Bush? Wasn't Reagan? How about Churchill? Ataturk? Reza
Khan? Anyone who been anybody?

You bet your last dollar I am tribal & I will remain tribal because
to not be Tribal means that I do not take my politics seriously, now
how can that be? I am telling you right here & right mow that in the
past for more than once I went as close to death as anyone could get,
for fighting hand to hand combat for my beliefs, I will not hesitate
to kill or be killed for what I stand for & what I believe in. I done
it before, I am doin it now & hell, I will do it in the future! Does
that make be tribal? Hell yes, I am a Tribal Chief, I am a Zulu
Tribal man, the Chief Mowhawk, the Big Cajon-e, hell yes. Every
person who was anybody in politics was tribal, wasn't Hitler?
Mussolini? Stalin? Tojo? Look @ our side, Roosevelt? C'mon, Tribalism
is what brings motivation, determination, will power, energy, spirit
of war, political activism, warriorism, to fight to death for what
you believe, hell yes!

I respect that Hezbollahi who is strapping Bombs on his waste & blow
himself up with 20 others of his enemies more than that sissy faggy
Liberal Democrat in Beverly Hills who is preaching brotherly love but
never been seen in Watts or any other Black Neighborhood! That Hezbo
is my enemy & I might fight him to death in the future, but I have
more respect for him than your Fags in Jebhe Meli who been banging
each others ass! Tribalism is The Way to go LOP. I like passionate
people & if that makes them tribal, then hell, give some tribal
people to lead & keep the Wus Balls in Jersey in your basement! Hell
ye.......

<It all looks like Iranian political tribalism to Maloun.>


It looks like Maloun lost his edge & he sees Double Vision & lost
logic to me! Too much Wine, Weed, PoonTang does that to a man! They
make the man very week & un focused! And thats how Liberals get born!
You are a step away from Liberalism & Indifference & Mediocarism &
thats an American Disease! I know, I know you are an African American
but still be aware of this American Disease!

No Tribes = No Balls

I like balls, gimi balls, I like men with big balls size of Empire
States like Reza Khan, & if that makes me tribal, then hell yes! Call
me Chief Bula Bula!

<If several million Iranians in Exile have been incapable of forming any properly democratic political parties since 1979 then what hope is there that Iran will get a democratic government after the Mullahs
are overthrown? With or without JM?>


Without Jebhe Meli there is a Bigger Chance than with Jebhe Meli.
Simply Jebhe Meli will never get us closer to Democracy, Freedom &
Social Justice! Hell, they cannot even a conduct a Democratic Forum!
They did not even support a True Democrat Dr. Bakhtiar, one of their
own Ex Members! They called him Nokar-e Bi Ekhtiyar"! (Puppet
Servant)! So dear Rob, Frag Jebhe Meli & I take my chances trying to
damage Jebhe Meli as much as possible, cause @ least I know that by
doing so, I make sure Iran will have a bigger chance to reach
Democracy & Opportunist Sellouts of Jebhei will not sell Iran out
again & again like they they been doing for Millenniums &
MILLENNIUMS, get it LOP?

<Has Roya succeeded in diverting AX from focusing on attacking the Jomhuriye Eslami to attacking JM?

I thought your national duty was to enlighten and motivate Iranians
to think and act and take the responsibility as democratic beings to
work together to kill the Jomhuriye Eslami. But what the hell do I
know? I am only a Ferengi.>


Exactly my point, what the hell do you know? You do not see any
danger in Jebhe Meli or likes of them, simply because people like you
under estimated them @ 1979 but people like me who know better & had
first hand experience, we know that the role of these people invented
1979. Without an Engineer, there will be no machine! Jebhe & his
buddies were the Engineers of 1979 & they are always ready to do it
again, hell, they are doing it now!

I do not even talk about that person, simply because she has no use
for me, for opposition & for Iran. She chose to leave politics & have
a life of comfort. She is as useless to me as Jebhei Fags. So do not
even bring her up, she is the past & morely she sold decades of our
friendship over a stupid conflict in politics & over Jebhei Frags!
Two wrong does not make a right. As much as I hate Jebhe Meli Iran, I
would have never Censor them in IPC & thats why Dream Lover left &
she took her Tribe!

Now you, you are another story, I think you lost your Khutba, your
Cajones, your balls, thats what it is! You are becoming a ball-less
man, like many other IPC members around here, like Reza Junior! What
happened to men with balls, mean of power?!

<Who is we?>


We can be IPC, we can be a matter of speech, hell dont you know
Aristocracy call themselves We? We are used to call ourselves we! We
grew up that way! You had to see Shah, it was always we done this or
that! I guess you have much to learn about Persians, specially
Persian Traditions & Aristocracy!

<Subtract AX and what is left of IPC Revolutionary Movement &
Operations?>


Arent you flattering me? LOP is using Persian Flattery on me! Don't
oh no please don't, stop stop it now! I am blushing
Chuck..................C;mon just kiddin, you can tell me
more.......if I was a Jebhei I would have getting an Erection by you
flattering moi! Ohhhh Dont...........

Ok Chuck, places to go, people to see, things to do, Chunky Little
blondes to chase, Night Life to Capture, Skulls to Crack, Heads to
Bang, Cars to Race, you know the usual thangs!

More power to LOP

Sign,

Tribal Chief Little Big Bone
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Postby IPC » Sun Feb 20, 2005 12:46 am

Dialogue of LOP and AX II

Jebhe Meli, Reaction of 1979, History
Dec 15, 2003


Dear Good Old X:

What reason did MRS give for jailing Hoveyda? I read that MRS had also jailed Shapour Bakhtiar at one point. For what reason?

On your second point that there was not freedom of political expression in Imperial Iran but you see this as a relatively minor point, let's do a thought experiment, using a hypothetical alternate universe.

In this alternate universe the 1979 revolution did not happen, the Imperial regime continued. MRS still had cancer so he died about the same time as in this universe. Then RP became your Shah. You remained in Iran except perhaps to go to university in Europe or the US.

RP continued to have Shia Islam as the official state religion in Iran. You began to lobby and campaign for separation of Mosque & State in Iran. RP calls you in and orders you to stop making trouble about Iran's official state religion and to show proper respect to the Ayatollahs.

Would you obey him and stop calling for secularisation in Iran because RP, your Shah, told you to and, by golly gee, there was not freedom of political expression in Imperial Iran?

If you chose to disobey RP and he put you in jail then how would you feel about that?


"Such people would be better off to work with the Imperial Regime & to change the corruption or Dictatorial Malfunctions & imperfections from inside the regime, cause the Imperial Regime unlike IRI was reformable, cause it was a legitimate lawful regime which cared about the international law! These moaners & bitching whining Anti Imperial Regime Intellectual Liberal, Commie, Muslim Sissy Ass Wusballs (how did you like that one!?), could pack up their sorry ass whining about the Shah cause the real Nationalists of the nation did their best to reform the regime from inside & to a great point their were successful. People like Hoveyda (both Brothers), Aryamanesh, and my mother were perfect examples!"


Hoveyda, Aryamanesh and your mother were members of the ruling elite. What could anyone do who did not belong to the ruling elite?

"That was Imperial Iran & things like freedom of political expression was a very minor element to step on, while the concentration was to progress the nation, industrialize the nation, educate the people, De- Fundamentalize the Muslim & Modernize the masses while turning Cattle of Gav o Guspandan to human beings! Frag Carter's Human Rights & Freedom of Expression! We had more important things to deal with, we were dragging Iran to Industrial & Information age! We were providing food to feed the people, we were increasing the national wealth so people in general would live a much better life. And of course we were educating the masses. Back then Iranians in general lived a much more wealthier life, healthier life, modernized life, freeier life & a pleasant comfortable life. So Iran was not a perfect example for Freedom of Speech, so what? At least people were fed, getting educated, all kinds of national free social programs, public health plans, blooming economy & most important 3 forces of the:

Educational Guards (Sepah Danesh)
Health Guards (Sepah Behdasht)
Agricultural Guards (Sepah Tarvij o Abadani)

made by Alahazrat's White Revolution were improving the quality of life, health, education & agriculture in furthest villages of Iran! We had more important problems to deal with than some sissy ass Liberal, Jebhei, Tudehi, Communist or Mojahed or Fraging Muslim complain about:

Human Rights, Freedom of Expression & Damage to Islam!

Frag them all!"


You have written of MRS's paternalistic attitude towards his "Iranian children". He was for modernising and progressing his "children" but was he prepared to let them grow to adulthood, to become independent of his parental authority?

You tell me if any of the following is incorrect. In 1975 MRS declared a one party state in Iran with his party, the Ratakhiz Party, the only legal political party in the country. He banned all other Iranian political parties. Senior pupils at Iranian high schools were ordered to join the Ratakhiz Party. MRS made a speech in which he said the following:


"We must straighten out our Iranians’ ranks. To do so, we divide them into two categories: those who believe in Monarchy, the Constitution, and the Sixth Bahman Revolution [i.e., the date on which the White Revolution was announced in 1963]; and those who don’t… A person who does not enter the new political party and does not believe in the three cardinal principles which I referred to, will have only two choices. He is either an individual who belongs to an illegal organization, or is related to the outlawed Tudeh Party, or in other words is a traitor. Such an individual belongs in an Iranian prison, or if he desires he can leave the country tomorrow, without even paying exit fees; he can go anywhere he likes, because he is not an Iranian, he has no nation, and his activities are illegal and punishable according to the law… We expect everyone, any individual who has come of age, to vote, either to enter this new political structure or to clarify his position as of tomorrow or as soon as possible."


1975, 4 years before he was thrown out of power. He had been Shah for 34 years. If one discounts 1941 to 1946 when Iran was under occupation then he had been the ruling Shah for 28 years, nearly twice as long as his father.

I have no quarrel with your points that 1979 was a disaster for Iran and Iranians and that Iranians were materially better off before 1979.

But I do question on what grounds you frequently assert that the MRS regime was reformable, given this behavior in 1975 after 28 years in effective power.

And I am not surprised that every single Iranian opposition party and group supported overthrowing MRS in 1979. And that they did not support MRS's appointee Bakhtiar because they feared that MRS would make a comeback, ban their organizations again and jail their leaders again the first chance he got.


"Now, Hoveyda could leave when the jails opened up! Actually a high ranking official had taken Hoveyda out of jail & free but then he went back in on his free will to face trial!"


I know. But if MRS had not thrown him in jail in the first place then he would have had a better chance to survive 1979, not so?

"It is true that Alahazrat made many mistakes including jailing Hoveyda, lack of secularism, not killing Khomeini, etc........ but hey, put all the positive & negative in the scale & you will see positive was 20 times of the negative!"


I agree with your basic premise here. But I suspect that MRS's mistakes were more serious and contributed more to 1979 than you think.

"You see, there is a difference when someone like me criticizes the Imperial Regime than some Sissy Ass Jebhei does the same! I paid my dues to Iran as a Nationalist, as a member of opposition & I devoted a good amount of my life (Decades) & Efforts (Hard Work) & Money (Tons) for the Damn Nation of Iran! But these Piss Ass Sissy Ass Jebhei or other wusballs were whining then (Imperial Regime), & whining now (Islamic Regime), never built anything, never accomplished anything but to help Mullahs to destroy Iran then & to wave a picture of Fraging Mosadeq or Shariati or Forouhar now! Frag them all, they are as good as dead, what are they good for?

Big difference between my critics & these Germ's Critics!"


They blame MRS and Khomeini completely for what has happened and accept no responsibility themselves. You accept that MRS made relatively small mistakes but blame Khomeini and 3 or 4 of the opposition parties, particularly JM, for what has happened.

You don't think that any Tudehis, Jebheis and members of other Iranian opposition groups made large personal sacrifices for what they believed in?


"When you say freely, you must understand that Iran was different & had a different system than you have here in USA. Certain books were not banned, but they were not also on display in the major book stores! However, you could go to every street corner side walk book display or Mosque & buy these books. So everyone had access to them. Many people would not go to book stores to purchase books but they were buying their books in the streets.

For example it was not only Khomeini's books that could not be found in major Book Stores like Amir Kabir Store or Major Book Stores in front of Tehran University! I had to personally buy certain books @ street corners from my specific dealers like everyone else! Books like:

Mine Kamph by Hitler
Capital by Marx
Fasche by Mussolini
Books by Dr. Kasravi
and a few books by Oriana Falachi

So all these books including Khomeini's books were not on displays but everyone could buy them in the streets & from private stashes of the book dealers. And yes, all these baboons who engineered the Islamic Revolution for Mullahs & brought them to power & later on became their first Cabinet Ministers like Bazargan, Forouhar, Amir Entezam & Sanjabi.............. could all read these books"


!Okay. There was this informal book distribution system. You are saying that there was no censorship and banning of books under MRS?

"You engineered an Islamic Revolution, followed Khomeini in mass numbers in the street, backed him up, told all your members of Jebhe Meli to follow him & then become a minister in his first cabinet & once he fraged you & kicked you out of office, you come out & tell scholars like Farokhzad that:

You did not know better? You did not read his Resaleh?"


You credit JM with "engineering the revolution"? Without the help of JM, the revolution would not have happened? Without Khomeini would JM have made a revolution anyway, IYO?

"Yes, LOP, Wounds are too deep, way too deep to be forgotten! Only a Mass Slaughter of the criminals would satisfy this turst! Rivers of blood would feed this hunger & finally close this old book on the Treason of 1979 by Jebheis & Tudehis & Meli Mazhabis & ....................."


When you express yourself like this I do not see a moral difference between what you are calling for and what Khomeini did to tens of thousands of Mujahedin in 1988.

"Your book of Cheesy Dictionary is flawed! We are not talking dictionary, we are talking Political definitions! "a complete overthrow of an established government or political system" according to your book means Revolution & it is also the exact definition of a Coup de Tat & a Bloody Reaction! So what up?

We are talking Philosophical terms for politics. We are not talking about what change is good or bad! What is good to you can be bad for me!

We are talking progressive or regressive.
. . .

Revolution is a change forward
Reaction is a change backward
Coup is a complete overthrow of an established government or political system (as your book says)

We are talking philosophical traditional political encyclopedia level. We are not talking cheesy Books of Almanac Dictionary level. Expand your horizons LOP! Evolve man, for God's sake evolve!"


You, and certain groups of people such as Marxists, may consider that revolution can only mean change forward or progress and use the word in that sense. But the standard English meaning of the word is what the English dictionary says it is and most people will use the word in that sense. Applying what you consider is the meaning of the word revolution, the title of Sam's online book is oxymoronic. Applying the standard English meaning of the word revolution, the title of Sam's book is not oxymoronic.

"We do not follow these cheesy reference books! We write these cheesy reference books!"


If you do not use the standard English meanings of words as laid out in the "cheesy" English dictionary, then English-speaking people may often misunderstand what you are trying to communicate to them.

On the topic of dictionaries and definitions, is jomhuriye an Arabic word? Are there Persian words for "republic" and "democracy"?


"We are the Uber-Menschen!

Am I ringing a bell or am I talking to the wall?

Do I sound enlightening or do I sound like banging Camels in deserts?

Am I making myself clear or not?"


You exist at the center of a golden bubble formed by your charisma and strength of personality, what some members call your "golden tongue". That golden bubble has finite limits. Inside the bubble you exert a powerful influence on other people. Outside the bubble your influence on others is not as strong.

"Yes, I know 18 year old ding bats right now but then again I know 18 year old bright minds too! You cannot say the average 18 year old in America is an MTV Watcher, Joint Smoker Boozer who does not know Washington was the first president of USA! There are 18 year olds who read Kafka & Tolstoy right now & they will be in white house in the future while the Dopes on MTV will be Truck Drivers of the future! No offense to Truck Drivers or Lori! Hee Hee Hee!"


Yes, there are different types of kids who grow up into different types of adults. But I would say that even a bright, intelligent kid who has not yet had the real life experience of taking full responsibility for themselves lacks the perspective that comes with adult life experience.

"I was reading:

4 books @ one point & @ age of 10, such as:

The Fall of Constantinople
Biography of Sallah al Din al Ayubid (Muslim Commander in Crusades)
Biography of Garibaldi (Italian Freedom Fighter)
History of Greeko_Persian Wars"

As a ten year old, what was your perception and awareness of what life was like for people in those periods and places?

"How interesting! Dr. LOP prescribes for Dr. X! Since when we reversed roles & you became my family doctor?!"


Since you became nauseous from trying to teach me Arabic.

"If I take a chunky little blonde 3 times a day, and for 3 days, then afterward I'll be having a broken back! Have mercy! Them chunky litrtle blondes are heavy & very passionate! What do you think man? By God man, have you lost your mind? I am not 18 anymore! I am an old man! Look @ my age in my profile! Besides, I have to call Lori for best price on Vitamin V (Viagra) or Vitamin L (Levitra)!"


Okay, in that case I want you to try and take a chunky little blonde once every 3 days, if you can manage it. If that is too much for you then take plenty of rest and drink plenty of cranberry juice. And don't try speaking any more Arabic until you feel better.

Regards,

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Dialogue of LOP and AX III

Jebhe Meli, Reaction of 1979, History

Little Bit O This & Too Much O That!
December 15, 2003



Immortal Commander:

<Very good. Actually the French Declaration of the Rights of Man and Citizen came out 30 days before the US Bill of Rights in 1789, not 7
years before in 1782.>


Thanks for correcting me.

<What reason did MRS give for jailing Hoveyda? I read that MRS had also jailed Shapour Bakhtiar at one point. For what reason?>


Technically Alahazrat was not jailing people, DA & Police were doing
the act & Advisors, SAVAK Officials and Ministers were effecting the
decisions. Does George Bush jails the drunken Senator here?

I make a remark that Alahazrat was responsible for these jailings
because he was the head of the regime. Both above examples were
delicate political matters, they were not the norm.

<In this alternate universe the 1979 revolution did not happen, the
Imperial regime continued. MRS still had cancer so he died about the
same time as in this universe. Then RP became your Shah. You remained
in Iran except perhaps to go to university in Europe or the US.>


Reza Pahlavi as The Shah?! With his pet Rat or without?! Out of all
scenarios you chose this?! I believe the odds were better for a:

a) Democratic Reform, Prime Minister (Bakhtiar) would rule & Shah
would be a figure head.

b) A Military Coup would happen & Ali Reza (Younger worthier son of Shah) would be placed on throne.

c) Alahazrat would pass away & Due to unworthiness, an Imperial
council would form & elect Shahriar Shafiq (Ashraf's Assassinated Son
by IRI) as Shah & remove Reza Pahlavi as soon as possible before
anymore further damage!

d) Hoveyda and Technocrats would convince Shah that the time had came for gradual democracy, so the cabinet would rule, Rastakhiz Party would vanish, old political parties of Neo Iran, People, Pan Iranist
& Iranian would appear again & just as a politcal move & for show,
also to satisfy women, they would put Farahnaz as the Queen to rule
Iran, but she had to promise not to use too much drugs, cause they
create wrinkles & cause premature aging!!!

e) Reza Pahlavi would actually replace Alahazrat & continue ruling!
But a while after his region a Soviet Backed Marxist Revolution would
occur & Tudehis would gain control & RP would retire to his kitchen
in DC or LA or Paris as a Gourmet Chef!

<RP continued to have Shia Islam as the official state religion in
Iran. You began to lobby and campaign for separation of Mosque &
State in Iran. RP calls you in and orders you to stop making trouble
about Iran's official state religion and to show proper respect to
the Ayatollahs.>


A person so hung up on Democracy & Freedom of Speech & Westernized,
would either:

a) Move out of Iran & live in the West.

b) Stay in Iran & reform from the within, meaning I would gain
alliance amongst the Top 40 powerful Families (Ruling Class), my own
Family (one of the 40 Families), Imperial Family (Pahlavi), Cabinet &
Military, then force a reform from within.

<Would you obey him and stop calling for secularization in Iran
because RP, your Shah, told you to and, by golly gee, there was not
freedom of political expression in Imperial Iran?>


As I mentioned above, I would have not had acted as you predicted.
Imperial Iran was not USA, things were done differently. Changes
would have to be made differently. Reforms from the within, making
alliance, good advise to the Monarch and forcing the will by changing
the balance of power, has been the Persian Way of Changing things in
the Imperial System for 8000 years.

<If you chose to disobey RP and he put you in jail then how would you feel about that?>


Lets be realistic, If the Imperial Regime would have remained in
power & if RP would have become the Monarch, Imperial Iran of Today
would have been much more like a Spain or Sweden but Shah would have
more power than in those nations. This was Alahazrat's ultimate
vision but gradually. Alahazrat even knew that RP does not really
have it in himself to rule with the Iron fist (@ least @ the
beginning), so he had worthy Generals, advisors, cabinet members,
Imperial Family members to watch over him.

Now regarding me, most likely, if I would have stayed in Iran &
decided not to immigrate to USA or UK, then most likely I would have
become a cabinet minister, preferably Foreign Minister or Favorably
Minister of Culture; however, neither I would approach the issue as
you have suggested as above & neither RP would have been reacted as
you suggested as above. You must understand that Persian Way of
getting things done in Imperial Iran was different from here.

Ah, there was a third possibility! I could become an Ambassador
Diplomat (by will) away from Tehran & in UN or DC so I did not have
to deal with RP, Imperial Regime or Iranian People inside!

<Hoveyda, Aryamanesh and your mother were members of the ruling elite. What could anyone do who did not belong to the ruling elite? >


All the above were highly educated people with a few different
skills, degrees and knowledge of languages. Non of them had to return
to Iran to live there or work there. Non of them were members of the
ruling elite. They were of the prominent families but not the ruling
elite. They had decided to return to Iran, work with the government,
grow up to become very important & take important positions in the
government & then make Changes from within. All of them succeeded to
do so. They made drastic changes. It was because of people like them
that many positive, progressive, popular, beneficial to public &
democratic Changes had made in Iran. These people & many other
Technocrats in the regime were the progressive forces standing in
front of the Reactionary Corrupted forces amongst the Imperial
Family, SAVAK & Hand Kissers & ASS KISSERS of the Pahlavi Regime to
keep the balance & push forward. They made themselves the elite, they
were not of the elite @ the beginning.

Lets say for every One Hoveyda (God Father) or Fereydoun Khan-e
Hoveyda (Our Friend), there were Five Tofeyli, one Ass Kisser, one
Hand Kisser, one corrupt Imperial Family member, one corrupt SAVAKi
and one thief in the government! But One Hoveyda managed to keep the
balance & even push forward, the whole system of the Imperial Iran!

<You have written of MRS's paternalistic attitude towards
his "Iranian children". He was for modernizing and progressing
his "children" but was he prepared to let them grow to adulthood, to
become independent of his parental authority?>


Yes, I sincerely believe that Alahazrat deeply understood that
Rastakhiz Party was a failure, gradual democracy was needed, yet
Iranians were not ready for it to totally loosen up the leash & he
was correct, look what happened @ 1979 when the leash was totally
loosen. If Alahazrat would remain in power, he would have eventually
move Iran towards Democracy. Eventually Spain style yet with more
powers for the Shah cause thats our Persian Tradition!

<Iranian high schools were ordered to join the Rastakhiz Party. MRS made a speech in which he said the following:>


Damn Robert! Who prompts you & programs you with the detailed words
of Alahazrat's speech?! Are these Loly Pop Faggish Jebheis inform you
of these speeches?! Or are you so research worthy to dig the whole
Iranian Database for juicy stuff! Either way its impressive!

Yes, I am aware of Alahazrat's speeches cause I was there, remember?
I was also opposing to the whole concept of Rastakhiz Party. At the
time, I had my own Nazi Party in Junior High! However, we had no beef
with Rastakhiz Party! Hee Hee Hee!

Alahazrat perfectly knew that Rastakhiz was a bad move, he wrote it
in his book! But overall, he envisioned to move towards Democracy but
not so fast! Education first, Democracy second. Still Imperial Iran
was a legal & civilized progressive reformable regime & I have seen
it up close & I also seen Reformists who actually done reforms in
Imperial Iran. I was very close & inches from these reformists like
Hoveyda, Aryamanesh, my Mother & many others........... I was just a
kid but as you must know, I was much too much grown up for my age! So
you can write equations on the paper about reformability of the
Imperial Iran but I experienced it up close. I maybe a Teenager @ the
time but my brain was ages ahead of my time. No doubt in my mind,
because I have seen reforms up close.

<I know. But if MRS had not thrown him in jail in the first place
then he would have had a better chance to survive 1979, not so?>


already told you that this was a mistake. People like me would
condemn Alahazrat forever for escape Goating Hoveyda for Imperial
Regime's corruptions! Only a typical Ass Kisser or Hand Kisser of
Alahazrat or Reza Pahlavi would deny this fact! Only Tofeyli
Monarchists of LA would deny this fact, otherwise any sensible
Monarchist or Republican would see that Alahazrat made a grave
mistake & broke Hoveyda's heart by doing so........... & yes this
made Hoveyda insane & made him persistent to stay in Iran & defend
himself in front of people of Iran & in a legal trial & court which
was non existent @ that time, so Khalkhali ended up killing him!
However, Dr. Shahqoli & other friends sworn that they got Hoveyda out
of jail (when jails opened up), they drove him out of jail, but later
Hoveyda went back in on his own!

<I agree with your basic premise here. But I suspect that MRS's
mistakes were more serious and contributed more to 1979 than you
think.>


Robert, I do not think that you are understanding me well! Alahazrat
made grave mistakes & many of them contributed to the happening of
1979. This is a fact. However, many other issues also contributed to
the happening of 1979. Also. non of this will change the fact that
the Imperial Regime in general was a progressive regime.

<They blame MRS and Khomeini completely for what has happened and accept no responsibility themselves.>


No you are wrong. Jebhe Meli of Khaenin & likes of them, believe that
they were & are the sole protector, creator & defender of Democracy
in Iran, they believe Mosadeq Kachal was God & a Hero, they believe
they have been fighting for Democracy for 50 years, they believe all
they done was for good of Iran since 1953, they believe all they done
was for good of Iran in 1979 & they believe that they were victims of
SAVAK & Shah & Khomeini. Thats what they believe. They do not see
themselves as traitors & criminals since 1953, specifically in 1979 &
greatly now! They do not see themselves responsible for mass murders
of opposition buy the regime that they helped engineered & benefited
from by becoming cabinet members of it! Today, they are proudly
shouting that they been doing active struggle in Iran for 24 years
while they been blowing Khatami's Dick for 24 years. Now, they lick
Ebadi's Vagina!

Jebheis are a type of opportunist, deceiving, corrupting, con artists
& criminals whom are much dangerous than Akhunds, cause they act as
the brains for Akhunds, they still do & majority of them are Meli
Mazhabi. Those few Faggots that you see fingering each other in their
forums & play Nationalist & Anti Muslim, are in minority! Practically
Jebheis are the most cowards of all the criminals of 1979.

<You accept that MRS made relatively small mistakes but blame
Khomeini and 3 or 4 of the opposition parties, particularly JM, for
what has happened.>


Wrong! You are either deaf or pretend to be deaf! I have been saying
that Alahazrat made grave crucial mistakes. Just read my love letter
to that gourmet Chef with Cotton Balls, Nim Pahlavi in 3 parts:

http://hometown.aol.com/ahreemanxi/page38.html

I believe you should stop interpreting my words & start reading my
words in depth. You see what you want to see, but my writings say
something else!

Also I do not believe 1979 caused by 3 or 4 parties! Many times over
in many of my articles I explained about all the causes of 1979 & all
factors which caused 1979. You must either be on drugs or blind not
to seen my writings! Among all the factors behind 1979 were:

* Lack of Secularism by Alahazrat

* Betraying Technocrats by Alahazrat

* Not listening to Wise Advisors by Alahazrat

* Harsh Treatment, elimination & not paying attention to Democratic
Factors By Alahazrat

* The White Revolution of Shah & Masses causing Feudals, Bazaaris to
hold a grudge

* Mullahs out of jail free card issued by SAVAK leaving their hands
free to plot

* SAVAK's extreme behavior

* Jimmy Carter's Betrayal of Shah

*Jimmy Carter's Human Rights bull Shiite Deal

* Jimmy Carter's Dual Talks not to show the green light to Shah to
deal with Revolutionaries severely

* General Hoiser

* CIA Miscalculation of the situation (Carter's Island of Stability
Speech in Tehran)

* CIA's wrong analysis & fears of Shah

* CIA's bad judgments on the Green Islamic Belt & creation of it
around USSR

* Traitors such as Imperial Generals Qarabaqi & Fardust (Shah's
childhood mate, grown up by Reza Shah), others who switched sides for
opportunism.

* British Tragic policies

* Illiterate Uneducated Masses of Iran blindly following Religious
leaders

* Illiterate masses of Iran following intellectuals
But Most important of them all, the most important reason,

* Intellectuals who engineered 1979 & brought Mullahs to power &
dragged these illiterate masses in the streets of Tehran & other
cities by millions & on top of these groups,

* Jebhe Meli KIRan

I simply do not know how many times do I repeat myself?! I do not
understand why my words are being viewed in manners that the viewer
wants to view it! My words are very clear, why do people interpret
them? Why do you twist them? Are you having The "Iranian Disease"? Or
is it these Forum Dwellers & Piss Ass Professors who trade opinions
with you in these cheesy Liberal forums?

<You don't think that any Tudehis, Jebheis and members of other
Iranian opposition groups made large personal sacrifices for what
they believed in?>


Thats what I wanted to hear! Thats my boy! The key word is "What
they believed in"!
What they believed in is correct! But what they believed in is two
different things than benefits of Iran! What they believed in was:

* Liberal Crap @ the cost of Destruction of Iran

* Undermining the legal Regime of Imperial Iran instead of working
with it & reforming it from within.

* Help educating the masses by serving their nation than to betraying
their nation by opposing the Imperial Regime, opposing their own
progressive element Shapour Bakhtiar & engineering 1979 & supporting
the most Reactionary elements & class of Iranian society, The Mullahs.

* Selling Iran to Khomeini for Money, position, opportunism & their
own welfare.

* Mass Slaughter of tens of thousands of pro Imperial regime, neutral
people, opposition members & Iranians while caring only about their
position in Khomeini's cabinet & their place in scale of power.
Association with Reformist Mullahs & being Khatami's pet for 24 years
& on going.

etc.

<Okay. There was this informal book distribution system. You are
saying that there was no censorship and banning of books under MRS?>


I believe you are an ill man & you urge & seek for me to cuss you
out! You must be a Masochist!

First you say:
"Okay. There was this informal book distribution system"

This means obviously there was censorship but obviously not effective
& executed because censored books could be bought @ many street
corners!

Then you say:
"You are saying that there was no censorship and banning of books
under MRS?"

And you contradict yourself! And you openly twist my words!

Robert, my good man, by God, what is wrong with you? Is it that you
have been hanging around Iranians for too long that you have become
infected with the virus of the "Iranian disease"? Are you having some
personal issues or problems that I am not aware of them & they cause
you to have amnesia to forget my words, lack of comprehension caused
by Short Attention Span or Adult Attention Disorder?! Are you
suffering from illness or illnesses? Is this why you always interpret
my words in a way that only a dirty filthy Jebhei or Tudehi Communist
would do to gain momentum from it?! Is this your method of getting on
my nerves or do they actually teach this line of nerve wrecking
tactics in CIA School & University?

Am I speaking Banto Afrikan? Even though so, you also do speak it,
no? How come you cannot understand my words? I am a fair English
speaker? And I know you are a very intelligent man, actually
extremely intelligent to the level of Intelligent Service!

Then how is it that you cannot understand the meaning of my words? Of
course you perfectly understand me when you want to understand. But
you become Dumb, Deaf, & Blind randomly & when you choose to be so!
This is a selective Dumbness that they teach to Secret Agents in
College! Is this a specific issue that you have due to Sadistic or
Masochistic illness? Or is it you trying to piss me off?

I know you are not stupid, you are a very sophisticated man, so why
are you acting like this? What kind of issues do you have? Unsolved
issues that is!

So once again, yes there were Censorships,
But no they were not heavily enforced, and thats why even I. a piss ass teen could buy any books on the street corner!

So for sure Sanjabi an older leader of Jebhe could read Khomeini's
Resale!

Get a clue? Did you get it? Or will you ask me another stupid
question or Finger me or pull my shorts or play nerve games with me?!

My fingers started to hurt for typing so much rhetorics to you! You
are bad for the health of my finger tips! You give my arthritis! You
give me carpetonel! I will start ignoring you, cause you get on my
nerves!

<You credit JM with "engineering the revolution"?>


Nope, this is Iranian History!

< Without the help of JM, the revolution would not have happened?>


Reaction would have happened but this does not change the fact that
Jebhe was one of the main engineers of the REACTION!

<Without Khomeini would JM have made a revolution anyway, IYO?>


If it wasn't Khomeini, it would be another Mullah in Exile or Inxile
or Home Isolation, plenty of baboons in jungle! Khomeini was not
charismatic nor a great leader! Khomeini had a history of personal
war with Shah over land distributions & reforms, because he was a
Feudal. Also because Shah was limiting the power of Mullahs. Khomeini
was created as a Head Figure by Jebhe Meli, Hezbe Tudeh, Other Kos
Kesh, CIA, MI6 & Bazaaris! Khomeini did not appear suddenly & led the
Reaction! They created him & they made him the leader & they
engineered 1979.

<When you express yourself like this I do not see a moral difference between what you are calling for and what Khomeini did to tens of thousands of Mujahedin in 1988.>


What can I say, I am an Expressionist Existentialist! I like
expressing myself! However, if you cannot see the difference between
slaughter of opposition to a regime & slaughter of Traitors who
committed Treason to the nation, then hey, what can I say? But no one
would slaughter anyone before Just Trials! I believe in courts, real
courts, not show trials! Let the courts decide if leaders of Jebhe
Meli, the whole hierarchy of Jebhe Meli were responsible for mass
murders of the last 24 years or not?! Once the verdict will be out,
then I will gladly execute the punishment. Personally, I prefer
Guillotine & I prefer laying the criminal heads up towards the blade,
so before the blade actually drops, he will get a heart attack! also
I prefer Guillotine because its bloody! You see I have this thirst
for Red Liquid! I do not know if its due to my Vampire nature or due
to my genes belonging to Qajar, taking after my great beloved
ancestor Aqa Moahamad Khan-e Qajar, whom Ahura Bless had this hobby
to hang people upside down by the testicles! Dear Great Grand Father,
Aqa Khan had a great sense of humor with internal & external enemies
of Iran's testicles! He was into balls! What can I say, like Great
Grand Daddy like Great Grand Son! Its a Persian Way of life, its a
tradition, you must be Persian to understand it! You got to feel it
in your bones!

All this talk about blood makes me thirsty, let me go grab a tall
cold glass of Cranberry Juice! Damn! I promised you I would not
slaughter any dirty Jebhei or Bazaari or Bache Haji or Muslim Student
Association this evening & drain their blood..................so I
scoop to Cranberry Juice, same color! Mope Mope!

<You, and certain groups of people such as Marxists, may consider
that revolution can only mean change forward or progress and use the
word in that sense. But the standard English meaning of the word is
what the English dictionary says it is and most people will use the
word in that sense. Applying what you consider is the meaning of the
word revolution, the title of Sam's online book is oxymoronic.
Applying the standard English meaning of the word revolution, the
title of Sam's book is not oxymoronic.>


I know you like Persian Expressions so let me teach you a new one to
put in your database:

First let me tell you the story behind the expression!

A mother was preaching about facts of life to his son for three hours
straight! After three hours of preaching, she said, did you get it
son? But the son replied: During the last three hours, I have counted
666 black flies had landed on the Donkey's Balls across the street,
sucked some blood off of them & then flown away!

Eventually after this episode, the expression got created that:

"Reading Religious Studies to the Donkeys Ears!"

"Yasin be gushe khar khandan!"

Meaning the mother is singing Yasin (Religious Studies) to the ears
of the Donkey (son) may as well to the wall! Cause he si busy
counting flies on donkey's balls!

Do you get it Rob?

It is useless!

I am talking to the wall!
I am reading Yasin to your ears!
I might as well bleed the stone!

<On the topic of dictionaries and definitions, is jomhuriye an Arabic
word? >


Yes

<Are there Persian words for "republic" and "democracy"?>


We are not Greeks, thats a Greek Concept! We are Persian with 8000
years history of Imperial system of Government! We have our own
Persian ways!

But if you insist, I can create a word for Republic?

How about Khomeini's Islamic Republic or better put: KIR?

<You exist at the center of a golden bubble formed by your charisma and strength of personality, what some members call your "golden tongue". That golden bubble has finite limits. Inside the bubble you exert a powerful influence on other people. Outside the bubble your influence on others is not as strong.>


I have no political ambition, I am not a show man, I am not a Great
Attraction of IPC to entertain people, I do not lecture auditoriums
to gain popularity or steal a spot on the cover of tabloids, I am not
a politician.

I only care to gather a close circle of highly evolved sophisticated
superior intellects around me to enjoy their company, teach a bit to
them & learn a bit from them, I seek brains & not mob, I seek quality
& not quantity! I seek to educate the masses & not to gather Gav o
Guspandan around me! I do not seek to attract Olaq O Qater (1), or I
would have put a picture of my Mirza Qalamdun (2) on the cover of
Javanan Iranian Tabloid magazine!

New terms for you:
(1) Qater = Mule
(2) Mirza Qalamdun = Ball Pen Teacher (Mullah with traditional ball &
pen in Madrasah Religious school) or My creative slang for Haji
Kuchike!

<As a ten year old, what was your perception and awareness of what life was like for people in those periods and places?>


That is a wide question! By age 13 & starting from age 10, I created
my own library & expanded it. So many periods of history were
involved in them!

<Since you became nauseous from trying to teach me Arabic.>


At this point I am getting sick of you again! But I am not nauseous!
I am dehydrated, my fingers hurt & my nerves are damaged & my hands
are carpetoneled! I had it with you! Never again I will write a
lengthy respond to you! You are hazardous to my health!

<Okay, in that case I want you to try and take a chunky little blonde once every 3 days, if you can manage it. If that is too much for you then take plenty of rest and drink plenty of cranberry juice. And
don't try speaking any more Arabic until you feel better.>


Thanks Doctor LOP! Yes, Arabic speaking is also hazardous for my
health cause I can get throat diseases like Diftiry, Laryngitis or
plane "Khonaq" (Persian Gagging) or "Khafe Khan" (Persian Choking)
or "Khung" ( Choking, bleeding & dying off of gagging, Persian
Style), last one was one of my creative words!

OK LOP, you have exhausted me!

To the refrigerator and Cranberry Juice we go......................

One of these days my hands will come out of the web cam & poke you in
the right eye! Just for the hell of it!

Say Rob,

Suggestions:

Maybe in the future, you want to consider,

* put 5 new piddlers together as a group of "piddler 3"
* Group What is the difference, all 5 in English
* Group what is the difference all 2 in Farsi

Its up to you!

Also, you sit & you sit & you sit & you come up with the most amazing
piddler target & zooming! Haj Bakhshi Head of Hezbollah right on the
head band of Allah! Robert, my hat is off to your imagination! If I
ever go back, I will make sure to bring Haj Bakhshi to kneel in front
of you, so you can pull down your RED shorts while that be the only
thing you be wearing & zoom his bald head & bandana!

You been feeding good Imported Beer to Piddler! Has he been target
practicing?

Where else can we display piddler on the book? Furthermore piddler on
Haj Bakhshi?! Only in IPC! It takes balls to do such Graphics but
hey, we old mercenaries are not afraid of no ghost! We have been
targets ourselves (in this world) & in Hot Bowl of Hell (in that
world), so who cares?!

Amen!

More power to LOP

sign,

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Postby Lawrence Of Persia » Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:01 am

Dialogue of LOP and AX IV (LOP to AX)

AX wrote: Thanks for correcting me.
You are welcome. 8-)

AX wrote: Technically Alahazrat was not jailing people, DA & Police were doing the act & Advisors, SAVAK Officials and Ministers were effecting the decisions. Does George Bush jails the drunken Senator here?

I make a remark that Alahazrat was responsible for these jailings because he was the head of the regime. Both above examples were delicate political matters, they were not the norm.
Okay, point taken.

AX wrote:
LOP wrote: In this alternate universe the 1979 revolution did not happen, the Imperial regime continued. MRS still had cancer so he died about the same time as in this universe. Then RP became your Shah. You remained in Iran except perhaps to go to university in Europe or the US.

Reza Pahlavi as The Shah?! With his pet Rat or without?! Out of all scenarios you chose this?!
I believe the odds were better for a:

a) Democratic Reform, Prime Minister (Bakhtiar) would rule & Shah would be a figure head.

b) A Military Coup would happen & Ali Reza (Younger worthier son of Shah) would be placed on throne.

c) Alahazrat would pass away & Due to unworthiness, an Imperial council would form & elect Shahriar Shafiq (Ashraf's Assassinated Son by IRI) as Shah & remove Reza Pahlavi as soon as possible before anymore further damage!

d) Hoveyda and Technocrats would convince Shah that the time had came for gradual democracy, so the cabinet would rule, Rastakhiz Party would vanish, old political parties of Neo Iran, People, Pan Iranist
& Iranian would appear again & just as a politcal move & for show, also to satisfy women, they would put Farahnaz as the Queen to rule Iran, but she had to promise not to use too much drugs, cause they create wrinkles & cause premature aging!!!

e) Reza Pahlavi would actually replace Alahazrat & continue ruling! But a while after his region a Soviet Backed Marxist Revolution would occur & Tudehis would gain control & RP would retire to his kitchen in DC or LA or Paris as a Gourmet Chef!
Very interesting! :) Very interesting indeed, AX! =D>
But we need a scenario where your analog in that universe
becomes President/Prime Minister.
Which of (a) thru (e) above is best for that?


AX wrote: A person so hung up on Democracy & Freedom of Speech & Westernized, would either:

a) Move out of Iran & live in the West.

b) Stay in Iran & reform from the within, meaning I would gain alliance amongst the Top 40 powerful Families (Ruling Class), my own Family (one of the 40 Families), Imperial Family (Pahlavi), Cabinet & Military, then force a reform from within.
Okay. We will go with (b). :)

AX wrote: As I mentioned above, I would have not had acted as you predicted. Imperial Iran was not USA, things were done differently. Changes would have to be made differently. Reforms from the within, making alliance, good advise to the Monarch and forcing the will by changing the balance of power, has been the Persian Way of Changing things in the Imperial System for 8000 years.
Okay.
Until we had this dialogue how was I supposed to know?
I am not telepathic.
I welcome your input so we can make the events in the Ahreemania universe
as plausible and realistic as possible.
The branch-point with our own universe was that when the Shah jailed Khomeini,
he hung him for sedition instead of releasing him to go into exile in Iraq.
The Ahreemania universe and our universe were the same up to that branch-point.


More to come.
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