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Postby oslonor » Tue Mar 07, 2006 1:50 am

Afghanistan and Globalization

Some people look at Afghanistan as an isolated country. But that is not the case. There are two major forces in Afghanistan. Iran and Pakistan. Russia and India are too far to be able to influence the situation. Both Iran and Pakistan is trying to pull Afghanistan to themselves. The same situation exist between Iran and Turkey in Central Asia. What has happened in Central Asia is Turkey and Iran has started cooperating with each other and dividing up central asia into spheres and influence. The same thing is happening in Afghanistan. Pakistan and Iran has started cooperating with each other and dividing up Afghanistan. That is why Pakistanis who were attacking Iranian Azeris until yesterday have moved to defend the same Iranian Azeris today.

One Scenario is to dream up a Pakistani Empire and the other is planning an Azeri-Turk Iranian Empire. Both these options are not very good for Afghanistan. There can be no integration of AFghan economy into Iranian economy as long as Azeri Turks are running Iran which have totally alien culture to Afghans. So the project of a central Asian European Union type sturcture is not possible.

In central Asia , Persian-Afghan Culture have influenced those countries in the past. But that Iran under the leadershop of Azeri Turks is not the cultural inheritor of ancient Persia. Currently now Iran is more similar to Mexico than ancient Persia. It has the character of a Maffia state.

But Afghanistan and its people are actually closer to ancient Persian Empire than Iran is. What is needed is the creation of an Afghani Empire based on Afghans including Persians living in Iran. This combined force can remove Azeri Turks from power in Iran and replace Afghans and Persians instead. Beginning of 1980's some people in Iran had these plans and that is why they nominated an Afghan as the first President of Iran post "Islamic Revolution" in Iran. One of these people were Ayattollah Khomeniny himself.

Several points about Afghanistan:

1. Afghanistan is only 300 years old country. There is no such country in ancient history.
2. Afghanistan is actually ancient Persia which has kept its independence. Persia or Iran has fallen to Turkish hands.
3. Zoroastura was actually from Afghanistan and Persians still have Zoarastrian culture in addition to Islam which they share with Afghans.
4. The most important resource is not money or oil but people and their culture. In those terms Afghanistan is a very rich country.
5. Afghans and Persians have led one of biggest Empires in history for 100's of years. The current situation allows a re-creation of that Empire.

Full Article here:
http://afghanempire.blogspot.com/
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Postby Liberator » Tue Mar 07, 2006 9:24 am

Dear Dr X,

This person "oslonor" has been on hundreds of forums spreading his anti-azeri shiite. He is trying to create tension amongst Iranians by saying that Azeris are not Iranians but Turks and that Iran is being "turkified"!!!

He's published a lot of shiite amongst them:



The Policy of Turkification in Iran
Nov 13, 2005
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http://www.iranian.ws/iran_news/publish/article_10873.shtml


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Other bullshiite blogs of his include:

http://oslonor.blogspot.com/

http://afghanempire.blogspot.com/

http://azeriturks.blogspot.com/

http://parsablogs.blogspot.com/


He even has his own board where he spews out this shiite!!

http://oslonor.proboards60.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/persianar ... Cbr%20/%3E


Keep an eye on this TROLL!!!


A good article on PAN-TURANIANISM and its aims in Iranian Azerbaijan:

http://www.rozanehmagazine.com/NoveDec0 ... Part1.html




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Postby Ahreeman X » Tue Mar 07, 2006 10:39 am

Folks, Oslonor, Liberator:

So far, here is my take:

http://www.iranpoliticsclub.net/club/vi ... =3645#3645
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Postby oslonor » Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:02 am

All I am saying is Azeris build their own state and Persians should join Afghanistan in an Afghan Empire.

Liberator wrote:Dear Dr X,

This person "oslonor" has been on hundreds of forums spreading his anti-azeri shiite. He is trying to create tension amongst Iranians by saying that Azeris are not Iranians but Turks and that Iran is being "turkified"!!!

He's published a lot of shiite amongst them:



The Policy of Turkification in Iran
Nov 13, 2005
Oslonor


http://www.iranian.ws/iran_news/publish/article_10873.shtml


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Other bullshiite blogs of his include:

http://oslonor.blogspot.com/

http://afghanempire.blogspot.com/

http://azeriturks.blogspot.com/

http://parsablogs.blogspot.com/


He even has his own board where he spews out this shiite!!

http://oslonor.proboards60.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/persianar ... Cbr%20/%3E


Keep an eye on this TROLL!!!


A good article on PAN-TURANIANISM and its aims in Iranian Azerbaijan:

http://www.rozanehmagazine.com/NoveDec0 ... Part1.html




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Postby oslonor » Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:08 am

Your article does not address the Persian and Azeri Turk divide in Iran. Many people who are promoting The Iranian Persian Empire actually mean the Azeri Turk Iranian Empire. For them very minor changes in Iran will produce their Iranian Empire. We think the Azeri Turk Islamic Republic is the same as Azeri Turk Iranian Empire and there is no difference between them. It is the time to accept losses and let Azeri Turks go their way and Persians go their way. That is the only way.

AhreemanX wrote:Folks, Oslonor, Liberator:

So far, here is my take:

http://www.iranpoliticsclub.net/club/vi ... =3645#3645
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Postby Liberator » Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:13 am

AhreemanX wrote:Folks, Oslonor, Liberator:

So far, here is my take:

http://www.iranpoliticsclub.net/club/vi ... =3645#3645



Dear Dr X,

He is not an afghan, but he has claimed he is an american supposedly married to an Iranian wife!



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Postby Ahreeman X » Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:48 am

Wait a second, he is not an Afghan?!
Then what's the deal with Afghan Empire Bologna?!
He is American?!
What does an Anglo want with Aryan Race?!
This is getting twisted & very fishy!

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Postby Liberator » Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:53 am

AhreemanX wrote:Wait a second, he is not an Afghan?!
Then what's the deal with Afghan Empire Bologna?!
He is American?!
What does an Anglo want with Aryan Race?!
This is getting twisted & very fishy!

What's The Deal? :-k



Again: He wants to create tension amongst Iranians with his ludricous claims! Why do you think he has 50 different websites promoting basically the same thing!!!

He is not an Afghan. He has stated he's an american with supposedly (!) an Iranian wife!!! Whatever he's up to it's to no good, but he should know that he will never succeed in his mission -which is to put Iranian vs Iranian! Divide and conquer...

This individual has been defeated on many forums (many racial forums) where he has spread his anti-azeri bull-shiite, yet he continues his anti-Iranian activities. It wouldn't come as a surprise if he is a Pan-Turkist himself wanting to seperate Azerbaijan and Azeris from the motherland!!!!!



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Postby oslonor » Tue Mar 07, 2006 12:32 pm

Pan Turkist want to separate Azerbaijan only. I am saying that Azerbaijan, Tehran and Isfahan are turks. That shows Pan Turkist do not understand how Iran is made up.

Liberator wrote:
AhreemanX wrote:Wait a second, he is not an Afghan?!
Then what's the deal with Afghan Empire Bologna?!
He is American?!
What does an Anglo want with Aryan Race?!
This is getting twisted & very fishy!

What's The Deal? :-k



Again: He wants to create tension amongst Iranians with his ludricous claims! Why do you think he has 50 different websites promoting basically the same thing!!!

He is not an Afghan. He has stated he's an american with supposedly (!) an Iranian wife!!! Whatever he's up to it's to no good, but he should know that he will never succeed in his mission -which is to put Iranian vs Iranian! Divide and conquer...

This individual has been defeated on many forums (many racial forums) where he has spread his anti-azeri bull-shiite, yet he continues his anti-Iranian activities. It wouldn't come as a surprise if he is a Pan-Turkist himself wanting to seperate Azerbaijan and Azeris from the motherland!!!!!



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Postby Liberator » Tue Mar 07, 2006 1:29 pm

oslonor wrote:Pan Turkist want to separate Azerbaijan only. I am saying that Azerbaijan, Tehran and Isfahan are turks. That shows Pan Turkist do not understand how Iran is made up.



You are an IDIOT. You are an American and can't even speak your own language correctly! Since when did Azerbaijan, Tehran and Isfahan become "individuals" for you to call these CITIES "turks"!!! At least if you want to spew out your shiite do it correctly by saying "Azerbaijan, Tehran and Isfahan are turkish" (meaning they belong to the Republic of Turkey)!!! And lastly STOP your false propaganda campaign - Azeri's are Iranians from the province of Azerbaijan. I have relatives that are from this province. I'm part Azeri. I'm an Iranian and I be damned if you ever convince me to go fight against a fellow brother of mine. Know this that your efforts in trying to tear Iran apart (divide and conquer) will not bear fruit for as long as there is ONE true Iranian out there.

Dr-jaan, you know that thread you created on that idiot muslim who ran over 15 people for the sake of allah, and in which you expressed your inner feelings - well we can definately relate on that!!!

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Postby oslonor » Tue Mar 07, 2006 1:43 pm

Sorry. I meant they are Turkish in culture. They are not similar to Turkey. They are similar to Caucasus in culture. Also I have nothing against Turks. I only say that is better for them to have their own country than living in another alien country. The other problem is Afghans do not accept Azeris even if Persians do that. Afghans do not want their country to be dominated by Azeri Turks.

Liberator wrote:
oslonor wrote:Pan Turkist want to separate Azerbaijan only. I am saying that Azerbaijan, Tehran and Isfahan are turks. That shows Pan Turkist do not understand how Iran is made up.



You are an IDIOT. You are an American and can't even speak your own language correctly! Since when did Azerbaijan, Tehran and Isfahan become "individuals" for you to call these CITIES "turks"!!! At least if you want to spew out your shiite do it correctly by saying "Azerbaijan, Tehran and Isfahan are turkish" (meaning they belong to the Republic of Turkey)!!! And lastly STOP your false propaganda campaign - Azeri's are Iranians from the province of Azerbaijan. I have relatives that are from this province. I'm part Azeri. I'm an Iranian and I be damned if you ever convince me to go fight against a fellow brother of mine. Know this that your efforts in trying to tear Iran apart (divide and conquer) will not bear fruit for as long as there is ONE true Iranian out there.

Dr-jaan, you know that thread you created on that idiot muslim who ran over 15 people for the sake of allah, and in which you expressed your inner feelings - well we can definately relate on that!!!

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Postby Liberator » Tue Mar 07, 2006 2:24 pm

oslonor wrote:Sorry. I meant they are Turkish in culture. They are not similar to Turkey. They are similar to Caucasus in culture. Also I have nothing against Turks. I only say that is better for them to have their own country than living in another alien country. The other problem is Afghans do not accept Azeris even if Persians do that. Afghans do not want their country to be dominated by Azeri Turks.



If I continue to read this bullshiite I'll probably have a mental breakdown and have to go to the IPC psychiatrist, and I don't want that to happen! But I would like the IPC psychiatrist to attempt to cure this patient called "oslonor" who has a severe case of "azerisarenotiranians" syndrom!!! [-o<



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Postby Ahreeman X » Tue Mar 07, 2006 4:07 pm

Folks:

What have we learned today?

We have learned that,

Things are not always what they seem to be!
For instance,

@ the first glance Liberator may seem to be a Forum Dweller, but he turned out to be a Warrant (Technical & Information) Officer & a solid Op. member! He supplied us with sensitive information about Oslonor! Once we renew SAVAK, I make sure he will have a special position in there!

@ the first glance, Lori Forouzandeh may seem to be an Innocent Virgin, but she turned out to be a Madam, a Pornographer, & an International Saboteur!

@ the first glance, Oslonor seem to be an Afghan Ultra Nationalist, but he turned out to be a Wanna Be Afghan & a ........., well, we will get there! :roll:


Liberator:
he will never succeed in his mission -which is to put Iranian vs Iranian! Divide and conquer...


You see, @ the first glance & after your beneficial information, one might think, this gentleman is either:

Turkish Intelligence, Azerbaijan Republic's Intelligence or British Intelligence; however, once he starts promoting Afghan Empire, then @ second glance, one might believe that due to the fact that Afghanistan is under CIA influence, then this gentleman creates all these sites & promotes what he promotes, to disintegrate Iran to damage IRI & brings a part of it, united with Afghanistan.

But if you look carefully, you will notice that this gentleman is none of the above! He is most likely married an Afghan woman who used to live in Iran & you know how Afghans love to adopt Iranian accent & call themselves Persians, so once she meets him, all her ideas transfers to him!

Now this gentleman is confused! He is carrying a torch to fight a battle, but what battle? Allah only knows!

Liberator:
"If I continue to read this bullshiite I'll probably have a mental breakdown"


Now you know how I feel about reading Iranian Forums!

This is all about that Pan Iranist Forum! Confusion is an epidemic & this gentleman obviously came from there! There is a chaos going in there! No one knows what is the cause! But everyone is up for the cause!

Oslonor:
I am saying that Azerbaijan, Tehran and Isfahan are turks.


Let's see, I am a historian, have been studying history since age 10, spent a lifetime studying geography, raciology, topography, anthropology & sociology of specifically Iranian Plateau, but this is news to me! Hmmmmmmmm, very interesting! You are trying to claim that Azerbaijan is culturally Turkic. Well, that is semi understandable, but how did you mix Tehran & Esfahan in there? There is a Azeri population in both reign (Cities & Provinces), but both Tehran & Esfahan are Non Turkic! Tehran is Median, Esfahan is Persian & both are Pars (Fars), so either I lived in Iran for 1st 15-16 years of my life or I was living on Mars, assuming that I lived in Iran!

Say Oslonor, have you considered writing a neo "Iranica Encyclopedia"? I am sure Iran lovers will be looking forward to read about your bits o wisdom!

Oslonor:
That shows Pan Turkist do not understand how Iran is made up.


And you do?!

After reading some of your stuff, I have grown grass on my penis (That was a Persian Expression for you)!

Oslonor:
They are similar to Caucasus in culture


But Caucasus itself is Aryan & Persian! Is it the Black Label Whiskey or is it all the Quaaludes talking?!

Oslonor:
The other problem is Afghans do not accept Azeris even if Persians do that


Who the Frag cares what or what not Afghans will or will not accept? Well except your Afghan wife!

Afghanistan is only 2 lesser important states of Iran. It is for their benefit to join the future Persian Union & bloom their economy, or else keep on riding Donkeys & growing Hashish! Since when Kabul makes policy for Iran?

This is like claiming that Idaho State or Montana State in USA will never agree with Washington's policy to admit California as a republic (state of Union)! Neither Washington DC, nor California could care less how is the feeling in Boise, Idaho or Montana! Idaho & Montana are only grazing grounds for American Cattle, that's all!

No offence to Afghans but I tell it like it is! Ultimately, every state of the Persian Union will have one vote but crucial national policy will be formed in Tehran!

I am sure your words are not representations of Afghan feelings towards Azerbaijan. I am also sure that both Afghanistan & Azerbaijan must & will join the future Persian Union. I am also sure that major decisions to unite Iran, will be taken in Tehran of the future & not Kabul or Qandahar!

I am also convinced that you are in need of a professional help!

Now only one question remains:

Are you on Hashish or Opium? And how do you get it out of Kabul? Furthermore, how do you receive it in States? You are an intelligent person but you must cut down on narcotics & booze!

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