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Postby Sahandk » Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:32 am

SHIITE? was that racism towards a religion? you thats exactly what the problem is, these monarchists cant seem to understand what freedom one day in iran means. Just because the mullahs are fundamentalist shiites doesnt mean every shiite is corrupt. This is a religion and interpretation is up to the individual. Are you saying one day when Iran is free you will jail those who are shiite and those who are religious? Please educate youself and read the universal declaration of human rights which states it is ones own right to practice a religion or thought or ideology. Denying this to a human is called being a dictator, which is exactly what you monarchists are. Dictators in blood who generalize a group of religious people with mullahs who are fascist. When iran is free, its not gonna be up to you to decide who prays and who doesnt, who goes to mosque and who goes to a strip club, if you understand what freedom is you will understand how your statement sayign SHIITE is something coming out of your savak dictatorship genetics.
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Postby iranazadbad » Tue Oct 04, 2005 7:23 pm

"Are you saying one day when Iran is free you will jail those who are shiite and those who are religious? Please educate youself and read the universal declaration of human rights which states it is ones own right to practice a religion or thought or ideology."

baba Shandak,
What the heck are you talking about?. Let's start with saudi's for denying other's religion, then go tell the mullahs to stop killing/jailing Bahahi's..
It is so amazing that you make a judgnemnt on those saying some stupid thing versus attacking those who actually practice this kind of crap.
I don;t give a shit what anybody believes as long as it is not foreced on me. That is yet. In today's world only the Islamic nations limit the right of people to worship the way they want. So, talk about what is real and not some imaginary/future nonsense.
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Postby A Username » Tue Oct 04, 2005 7:54 pm

SHIITE? was that racism towards a religion?


racism

1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.

2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

Are you saying one day when Iran is free you will jail those who are shiite and those who are religious?


To quote his original statement:

they are the same SHIITE as the filthy mollah's that have currently occupied Iran!


Thus there is no racism or threats to jail shiites in this statement.

Denying this to a human is called being a dictator,


dictator

An ancient Roman magistrate appointed temporarily to deal with an immediate crisis or emergency.

One who dictates: These initials are those of the dictator of the letter.

Thus the proper term is 'tyrant'.

Dictators in blood who generalize a group of religious people with mullahs who are fascist.


Is religion above criticism?

When iran is free, its not gonna be up to you to decide who prays and who doesnt, who goes to mosque and who goes to a strip club, if you understand what freedom is you will understand how your statement sayign SHIITE is something coming out of your savak dictatorship genetics.


So he hates a religion because of his genetics? Is that racism?

Care to show us more of your fine Canadian linguistic talent?
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Postby Sahandk » Wed Oct 05, 2005 8:33 am

i dont think you guys read what i was replying to. Mojahedin is an islamic group, their islamic by name and yes they are shiite. This dude said i hope they dont go to Iran, because theyre the same shiite (which i believe is a pun) as the mullahs. I was replying to this comment because its wrong to be against a religious shiite just because the mullahs were shiite and bad. You cant base what the mullahs have done based on their interpretation of shiite islam to others who practise it peacefully and without forcing it onto someone else. Just because we are sick and tired of mullahs doesnt mean one day in a free iran they wont exist or not have the right to. Yes, those who break the democratically made laws will be punished, but no idividual will be targetted for believing in khamenei or the past islamic republic.
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Postby IIRF » Wed Oct 05, 2005 12:42 pm

I cannot know what will become of our struggle to free Iran but remeber this, when Iran is freed from the grasp of the Islamic Republic the Mojahedin will not or ever gain a dominate foothold in Irans government.

Mojahedin has proved its true colours based on their actions over and over again, no one here can justify that they have good intentions for Iran.
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Postby iranazadbad » Wed Oct 05, 2005 7:44 pm

Sahandk,
Thanks for the explanation. I don;t like mojahedden because they have sold iranian interests at every turn. However, I support the right of people to worship in any way or form they like (as long as it is not imposed on me). I don;t want to hear masjid call to pray, I done;t want to see sinezani.. They can do those in their homes or in masjids without making too much noise about it.
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Postby A Username » Wed Oct 05, 2005 8:25 pm

Sahandk wrote:i dont think you guys read what i was replying to. Mojahedin is an islamic group, their islamic by name and yes they are shiite. This dude said i hope they dont go to Iran, because theyre the same shiite (which i believe is a pun) as the mullahs. I was replying to this comment because its wrong to be against a religious shiite just because the mullahs were shiite and bad.


To quote Liberator again:

they are the same SHIITE as the filthy mollah's that have currently occupied Iran!


Which implies that he believes mojahedin to share beliefs similar to IRI mullah's.

They do have a questionable history. From fas.org:

In 1991, it assisted the Government of Iraq in suppressing the Shia and Kurdish uprisings in southern Iraq and the Kurdish uprisings in the north.


Besides, you mistook criticism of a religion for racism.
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Postby Liberator » Fri Oct 07, 2005 5:52 am

To all newly entered Islamo-Marxists/ Rajavi Rajavi Iran Iran Maryam Maryam Masousd Masoud shouters:

My views on Islam can be viewed here:

http://www.iranunited.com/forums/index. ... 4a95526209


So after having gone through that you should come to the conclusions that a GOOD muslims in my book is in fact a NOT SO GOOD person! Also if you've read my previous posts on this topic you would have come across that i've stated the majority of the Iranian population are NOT TRUE muslims!

A large segment of the population are still affected by the 1400 year long Arabo-Muslim occupation of Iran with all the hardships that came with that. Even today Iran is once again ruled by Arabo-Muslims who claim being decendants of the Taazi (Arab) Prophet Mohammad who was everything from being a pedophile to thief, killer etc. The "de-toxification" process or simply cleaning up our house - Iran - has begun and as this process continues with the help of people like Dr Kasravi, Dr Aryamanesh, "Mr X", Mr Fooladvand etc Iranians will hopefully end the curse that has been cast upon them for so long and which has made them blind to the world in front of them.

If you can't figure out the symbolism in the word SHIITE that I use then I'm sorry for you :D


In hope of better days for Iran and Iranians.
More power to the Iranian Freedom Fighters currently trying to free their nation from the chains of arabo-muslim occupation.
Javid Iran!




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Postby Liberator » Sat Oct 08, 2005 8:41 am

prologicam wrote:
Take a look at the following 308 references to cruelty and orders-to-kill in Quran.


Just one question Liberator; Did you actually read the references yourdelf in Quran or taken them from other articles?

Thanks




Dear prologicam,

I read them on the link that's at the end of the article. (http://www.iranian.ws/iran_news/publish ... 3961.shtml)



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Postby iranazadbad » Sat Oct 08, 2005 2:30 pm

prologicam,
The Ghoran (Quran) does call for murder and killing of the enemies /infidel and whatever you wnat to call them. Isalm did conquer and force others to this religion by force and fear, But, so did Chrisianity. The tribe of Hebrew was not immune in destroying other tribes as well, and the Hidus certainly have killed in their religion names. None of these philosophies and theologist would have survived if they showed weakness towrd their enemies. Only after forced conversions do we see the love and caring peice come to be (for all of them).
I like these religions because they are elemental. they refelct the very elementary needs and desires of men/women. You can argue with the message but the very fact that they have stood the test time is their best and biggest achievement.
The Persians by the way did not control half of the world by kindness rather by shear force. In order to stay and write the history you need to win the conflicts of life and death. The old persians lost and arab moslem won. The only way to change that is to become as committed in eliminating them as they have always been in eliminating you. I am not sure that is an option anymore as more iranians see themselcves as moslems than decendant of once a great nation.
May Iran be always strong and truthful to itself.
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Postby Liberator » Sun Oct 09, 2005 2:54 am

prologicam wrote:
I read them on the link that's at the end of the article.
Shouldn't people examine the 308 murder charges by reading the Ghoran prior to accepting them through media? I mean, it's a serious crime, right?

Regards



Dear prologicam,

I suppose you're suggesting that I should read the Koran for myself before I decide to take upon something that I read on a site? Well, after having read the analyses of Ali Sina (http://www.faithfreedom.org/), other Islam-Specialists, and hundreds of Islam-exposing sites (one of them being that of Dr X) I really don't deem it necessary for me to learn arabic so that I can read what some deranged arab wrote over a thousand years ago - when there are people who know arabic perfectly and who are ex-muslims themselves; there can be no better source in my opinion. Just looking at the sorry state of Islamic countries today should be proof enough.



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Postby peterkhanzendran » Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:45 pm

To be precise I got those pictures from The Iranian. Learn how to do a web search. Also remember that both resistance and monarchists use the Shir-o-Korshid, the flag amrika betrayed in 1978-9.
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Postby iranazadbad » Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:39 pm

Maybe you and others alike, don't have the strength to reject religions? Maybe you enjoy the contradiction it brings along? In any way, It has a strong hold on people of all kind with different strength. To get rid of it, you need to be a superior specious. Once you are free from it without falling apart, you will know how different you really are.

Prologicam,
I really enjoyed your thoughts. Thank you for sharing them.
I am not a Moslem, Christian or Jew. I believe in God. But, I have more joy living in the state of not knowing than trying to comprehend the incomprehensible. I leave that for those lazy_minds who have a significant need to know, otherwise, they feel empty and incomplete.
Having said that, I live in a country that gives me that option. I have the luxary of believing the way I want. So, I have to think of all those left beyond in places like Iran. Fear is the greatest tool in shaping one's action. As such, these religions have been very elemental in driving that fear in the minds and souls of their followers. They have learned something about human intentions that most current social scientists can not understand. I give them credit for that achievement, even though that is distasteful to me.
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Postby Sahandk » Sun Oct 16, 2005 8:33 am

Liberator wrote:To all newly entered Islamo-Marxists/ Rajavi Rajavi Iran Iran Maryam Maryam Masousd Masoud shouters:

My views on Islam can be viewed here:

http://www.iranunited.com/forums/index. ... 4a95526209


So after having gone through that you should come to the conclusions that a GOOD muslims in my book is in fact a NOT SO GOOD person! Also if you've read my previous posts on this topic you would have come across that i've stated the majority of the Iranian population are NOT TRUE muslims!

A large segment of the population are still affected by the 1400 year long Arabo-Muslim occupation of Iran with all the hardships that came with that. Even today Iran is once again ruled by Arabo-Muslims who claim being decendants of the Taazi (Arab) Prophet Mohammad who was everything from being a pedophile to thief, killer etc. The "de-toxification" process or simply cleaning up our house - Iran - has begun and as this process continues with the help of people like Dr Kasravi, Dr Aryamanesh, "Mr X", Mr Fooladvand etc Iranians will hopefully end the curse that has been cast upon them for so long and which has made them blind to the world in front of them.



Again you still dont realize the true meaning of freedom. In the future when Iran is free you will not be the person to place a "arabo-muslim detoxification process" nor anybody else. When Iran is free, if someone wishes to be brainwashed by arabs or smash his head against the wall a thousand times that will be THEIR BUSINESS at not yours. You can not change someone just because you find it needed. A future Iran will bear international laws, much like the ones you enjoy in America, laws such as the ones that allows you to be gay, black, white, brainwashed, stupid, retarded ANYTHING!
You still truly dont understand the meaning of freedom. In a free Iran each individual will decide what theyre ideas will be even if it means believing in a false version of islam, or being arabo-muslim or being brainwashed to believe so or even worshipping khomeini. As much as we hate this form of thought, a part of freedom is respecting someones belief no matter what, as long as it doesnt hurt or effect anybody else. So in the future you can continue your "detoxification process" but as long as Iran bears international laws , your actions will be ilegal. For the last time , YOU have no right to stop someone from being a brainwashed arabo-muslim just because its against you or a majority of iranians. In a future Iran if you see someone walking on the streets with a t-shirt saying "I love arabo-muslims" or "I love the false islam" and you decide to encounter that person and take matters into your own hands (get physical) i along with others will snap your little monarchist panzy legs and make sure you dont do it again. Theres only one person your gonna be responsible for when Iran is free and that is yourself. the end. =;
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Postby Liberator » Sun Oct 16, 2005 9:19 am

Mrs Islamo-Marxist, :lachak:

a part of freedom is respecting someones belief no matter what, as long as it doesnt hurt or effect anybody else.


Cutting a child's head with a sharp object because it's part of islamic tradition shall not be allowed and those who do such will be prosecuted :basij: ! People who are told to kill "non-believers" (kafaar) will not be allowed to roam the streets. Do you get the HINT????!


So in the future you can continue your "detoxification process" but as long as Iran bears international laws , your actions will be ilegal.


Informing people of the TRUTH is nothing illegal; killing people is you imbecile. And if you think your filthy Arabo-Muslim/Marxist organization (Mojahedin-e Khalq IRAQ!) have any support in Iran because you fought a war against the Iranian Nation side by side with the Iraqi forces you must be delusional!


For the last time , YOU have no right to stop someone from being a brainwashed arabo-muslim just because its against you or a majority of iranians.


Once again you don't know what you are talking about. Those who have been brainwashed will be brought back to reality through non-violent ways.

Now go :namaz: to Maryam/Masoud/Allah and stop these foolish games of yours. Sit back and watch your filthy rule of 1400 years slowly die out in Iran.



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