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A Historical View on Jews

Postby Ahreeman X » Wed Jul 27, 2005 5:00 pm

A Historical View on Jews
July 27, 2005

Folks:

I am going to be very frank & right to the point. I am going to clarify this issue for once & for all! Through the history, Jews have been discriminated against, persecuted & mass murdered. This has been going on since beginning of time! Almost every single global power had persecuted the Jews. Allow me to mention only a few highlights of these crimes against Jews. Since the beginnings of time:

A look through history

Babylonian Empire relocated, persecuted & murdered Jews.

Islamic Empire, specifically during Prophet Muhammed, Islam, religion of peace, mass murdered whole tribes of Jews.

Roman Empire, heart of western civilization through its history, practically crucified the Jews!

During Dark Ages, Mid Evil Era, Inquisitions, The Holy Roman Empire, Vatican, Spanish Empire & other European powers prosecuted, persecuted, discriminated, possessed their properties, relocated & mass murdered the Jews.

Russian Empire in WWI practically relocated & placed the Jews in Concentration Camps! The Jews were not allowed to own businesses & over 200,000 were killed by Russians.

Nazi Germany & her Axis in WWII were the ultimate cruelty to the Jews. Do I even need to mention what Nazis done? I don't know where to start! Lets just satisfy with the fact that over 6 Million Jews murdered in Concentration Camps, made for Slave Labor.

USSR, the symbol of the global proletariat! The cruelty to the Jews were unbelievable! Communists done to the Jews exactly the opposite of what they were preaching as Equality, Brotherly Love & Labor of the globe unite! Relocations to Gulags, exile to Siberia, oppression & finally selling each Jew to Israel for money, was the ultimate crimes against humanity by Communists!

European Union, forget about it! EU loves to see a Jewish Massacre by Arabo_Muslim. They are 100% against the Jews!

Arabo_Muslim, Oh boy, do I even need to go there? They love to throw all the Jews in Mediterranean & dismantle State of Israel!

And that's the History for you, in a nutshell!

Now let me be straight forward & you do know that I always speak my mind & that's one of the main reasons that I am almost always in trouble, attacked & bad mouthed by many! I do not care to Sweet Talk, Politically Correct talk, put Shiite on Shingle, Bull Shiite the history or Goh Mali the facts: therefore, I will come straight out & right to the point & say it like it is!

Through the history, Jews practically had only two supporters which these two have supported the Jews not only for political reasons but also for Humanitary Reasons. The two were:

a) The Persian Empire

b) United States of America

And that's all folks!

Basically everyone else have oppressed the Jews in one form or the other!

The Persian View

Until about 1400 years ago & before Islam, The Persian Empire has been a solid supporter, Rescuer, defender, safe heaven & friend to the Jews. Cyrus The Great's Actions were the greatest example yet only one of the many examples in which The Official Policy of The Persian Empire, had helped & saved the Jews over & over.............

Jews have been always naming Persians in their Holy Book (Tora aka Old Testament), other Documents & historical books as their saviors & friends or as Great people.

Once, Islam hit Iran & the Iranian Blood got infected with the Cancer of Islam & Allahic Virus, then the general view of Persians towards Jews have also been changed to the point of hating the Jews! Islam, Religion of Peace, has been a solid Hater & Oppressor of the Jews since its beginning @ Muhammed's time!

Safiyah, Muhammed's Victim

How can we forget the Mass Murder of Bani Nadir Jewish Tribe, beheading of the Tribal Chief & the enslavement of Safiyah his daughter as a concubine? The enslavement, forced marriage, & rape of 17 years old Safiyah by Muhammed is a perfect example on how Muhammed treated the Jews! Muhammed murdered the whole tribe, killed the father & kidnaped & raped the daughter! Muhammed mass murdered many Jewish Tribes & so done his followers through the history! Some of these tribes were Bani Sa'd, Bani Khaybar, Bani Qurayza, & Bani Qaynuqa.

Since entrance of Islam to Iran & later on in 1920s, 1930s & 1940s (Aryan Hype), eventually Iranians in general, have become primarily Islamo-feel & then Germano-feel. Nazi Germany was a great factor for the rise of Nazism in Iran. Iranian were always Aryan but particularly, after Islam, they became Islamo-feel & after Nazi Germany, they became Germano-feel! These feelings had eventually diverted the Iranian General public's feelings to become pro Palestinians & Anti Jewish. Today, inside Iran, the government openly calls for dismantlement of Israel & elimination of Jews. General public in majority has Fascist, Nazi & Anti Jewish sentiments. Even Iranians outside Iran, by majority are Germano-feel or Islamo-feel or both!

I am a rare specie of Iranian who is openly pro Jews for both political & humanitarian reasons. I do not care about the reactions, which I will get for writing this article; I proudly state my mind. Majority is not necessarily correct! Majority of Nazi Germany were wrong & the majority of Islamic Empire & now Arabo_Muslim Nations are wrong. Opinion of the majority is not necessarily correct. I am pro justice & pro facts of the history.

I consider Iranian Jews as equal as other Iranian citizens, I consider Israel a democratic nation, I believe the future free regime of Iran must form an alliance with Israel, In Arabo_Jewish conflict I am 100% pro Jews & support Israel by 100 percent!

I am not a Zionist, I am not even a Jew nor a Mossad Agent, but I am a Realist & an Iranian who seeks The Best for Iran.

If you like what you hear, that's fine & if you don't like what you hear, its too bad, but it does not make a bit difference in my preachings, because I am a Historian & my view to the issue is a historical based view. My view to the history is also a scientific view. That my friends, is called Realism.

Amen!

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Re: A Historical View on Jews

Postby Shahanshah » Sat Aug 13, 2005 9:12 pm

ahreeman, please let me educate you on your disinformation and beliefs: oh im so going to enjoy this

Islamic Empire, specifically during Prophet Muhammed, Islam, religion of peace, mass murdered whole tribes of Jews.

how? how did Mohammad killed jews when he wasn't even involved in the so called "Islamic Empire", Islamic Empire rose during Omar. And if by "mass murdered" you mean arabized, then yes.

Roman Empire, heart of western civilization through its history, practically crucified the Jews!

Roman empire crucified them whenever Hebrews rebelled. So its not a matter of religion, but matter of imperial internal security and stability.

During Dark Ages, Mid Evil Era, Inquisitions, The Holy Roman Empire, Vatican, Spanish Empire & other European powers prosecuted, persecuted, discriminated, possessed their properties, relocated & mass murdered the Jews.

yes, thats true, specially during the crusades, when wrongfully the christians called jews semites after their arab enemies in the middle east. starting a whole identity crised with the Jews of europe who are europe raised, european blood, now thinking they are semites and somehow belong to palestine.

European Union, forget about it! EU loves to see a Jewish Massacre by Arabo_Muslim. They are 100% against the Jews!

hey, are you living in your own planet or something :badgrin: , most of EU is run by Jews. EU is an ally of the Jews now. Jews rule Europe believe or not.

Arabo_Muslim, Oh boy, do I even need to go there? They love to throw all the Jews in Mediterranean & dismantle State of Israel!

hell ya, every white jew deserves to go back where they came from. Yasser Arafat's agenda was to liberate all of palestine, kick out western jews and would allow easterners and the real palestinians jews, the YISHUV, to remain in palestine and be citizens. Dont believe me, please go research this.

Through the history, Jews practically had only two supporters which these two have supported the Jews not only for political reasons but also for Humanitary Reasons. The two were:

a) The Persian Empire

b) United States of America

And that's all folks!

funny guy, the Hebrews had been supported by iranians yes, our own Jews had been supported yes, but western jews are not hebrews, they are not from middle east. Palestinian of today are the descendents of the Hebrews. Being a Jew does not make you be part of a race, doesnt make you be a semite. You mean every guy who converted automatically became part of a HOLY race? bahhaaha. thats zionism, thats western jews identity crisis.

Until about 1400 years ago & before Islam, The Persian Empire has been a solid supporter, Rescuer, defender, safe heaven & friend to the Jews.

yes, we persians are the most noble people on earth, arent we??? you are so funny!

Cyrus The Great's Actions were the greatest example yet only one of the many examples in which The Official Policy of The Persian Empire, had helped & saved the Jews over & over.............

yes apparently you dont remember that Xerxes was going to wipe out all of the jews, but if it wasnt for his slave/wife who was a jew, he abondond his master plan. yes over and over and over... please.

Jews have been always naming Persians in their Holy Book (Tora aka Old Testament), other Documents & historical books as their saviors & friends or as Great people.

as far as I know, they only named Cyrus, and called him "Lord Annoited". never mention the all noble PERSIAN people.

Once, Islam hit Iran & the Iranian Blood got infected with the Cancer of Islam & Allahic Virus,

hey, believe it or not, you probably have some arab blood in you, now since you hate arabs so much, please go and try to change your DNA, cuz you probably have an arab ancestor who was a Lizard eater burying his daughter alive. believe it or not!!! :doubt:

then the general view of Persians towards Jews have also been changed to the point of hating the Jews! Islam, Religion of Peace, has been a solid Hater & Oppressor of the Jews since its beginning @ Muhammed's time!

no our views didnt change, during the Sassanid Zoroastrian era, we persecuted any other form of religion, judaism, christianity. and WHY do you think that mohammad did the oppressings, he did not even live to see Islam come to IRAN. How do you come up with all this non-sense? You seem to be an extremist Islam hater. Which is nothing to be proud of.

How can we forget the Mass Murder of Bani Nadir Jewish Tribe, beheading of the Tribal Chief & the enslavement of Safiyah his daughter as a concubine? The enslavement, forced marriage, & rape of 17 years old Safiyah by Muhammed is a perfect example on how Muhammed treated the Jews! Muhammed murdered the whole tribe, killed the father & kidnaped & raped the daughter! Muhammed mass murdered many Jewish Tribes & so done his followers through the history! Some of these tribes were Bani Sa'd, Bani Khaybar, Bani Qurayza, & Bani Qaynuqa.

again Mohammad never massacred anybody, mohamad didnt spill a blood. As far as I know he had few followers by the time of his death. He did not even live to see islam spread to all of the Arabian desert.
Please provide me with some proof of you baseless racist and ignorant allegations. I really want to see them.

Since entrance of Islam to Iran & later on in 1920s, 1930s & 1940s (Aryan Hype), eventually Iranians in general, have become primarily Islamo-feel & then Germano-feel. Nazi Germany was a great factor for the rise of Nazism in Iran.

hahahahhhha, How in the world do you come up with all this? Are you crazy, I think you have Schizophrenia. please check with a mental hospital.

Iranian were always Aryan but particularly, after Islam, they became Islamo-feel & after Nazi Germany, they became Germano-feel!

yes we were aryan, we were noble blah blah blah, by the time iranian tribes migrated to what we know as iran, we were already mixed with caucasian mountain people. ooh how aryan we were!!!

These feelings had eventually diverted the Iranian General public's feelings to become pro Palestinians & Anti Jewish.

hahahahha, yes back then iran always supported palestine against jews ahhaha. its only the recent history with the creation of israel. No Iranian is anti-jew, we are Anti-zionists. there is a difference. you dont have to be a jew to be zionist. The israeli state is a vicious and murderous state built by the colonialist and racist west, only using extremist jews and zionists as a tool to achieve their colonialism in middle east. Poor palestinian babies, they are arabs, so they should be shot and have no country according to this guy ahreeman. I have many arab friends and they are wonderfull and kind and tolerant. they are muslim christians aswell. I have white jewish friends as well, so dont get me all wrong.

Today, inside Iran, the government openly calls for dismantlement of Israel & elimination of Jews.

hate the government, but as far as i know, all they say is the dismantlement of israel not eliminatio of jews. they have jewish members of parliament. I had jewish classmates in iran, and i never heard a mullah come and said "eliminate that jews".

General public in majority has Fascist, Nazi & Anti Jewish sentiments. Even Iranians outside Iran, by majority are Germano-feel or Islamo-feel or both!

general public in iran are very tolerant and lovingly toward jews or anyother. you never been or live in iran so how do u come up with that bullshyt. even outside iranians are tolerant and love jews who love them. and example is me who's best friend and partner is a white jew.!!! omg, that cant be, i must be a fascist, nazi & anti jew according to this crazy faagot. :-? :-? :-?

I am a rare specie of Iranian who is openly pro Jews for both political & humanitarian reasons.

you are not a rare "specie", you are a fool, majority of iranians like their jewish population, and for me i dont mind if a jew becomes my president in IRAN.

the majority of Islamic Empire & now Arabo_Muslim Nations are wrong. Opinion of the majority is not necessarily correct. I am pro justice & pro facts of the history.

so far most the facts you provided were false and encouraged by your racist feelings towards arabs. you rewrote history against arabs. you rewrote history as though persians are the most noble. Not true.

I consider Israel a democratic nation

I consider Israel to be a democratic to nation only to its own population, and a vicious murderer for arabs and muslims alike. I consider Israel to be an aparathid western built colonial state made to divide us and keep middle east as destabilized for as long as possible. it is made so the west can have a base to persue their campaing of making middle east a war torn region with all the oil for the west and all of our riches for the west.
I consider Israel as a fictious state based on lies and zionist terrorism. a state which never existed. the true jews, hebrews of the land are palestinians, and upon till zionists migration to the land, jews and muslims lived in PEACE and Harmony.

I believe the future free regime of Iran must form an alliance with Israel, In Arabo_Jewish conflict I am 100% pro Jews & support Israel by 100 percent!

i believe the future regime must work for human rights and justice, therfore be against zionist crimes against humanity. A 14 year old girl was brutality shot 19 times by a zionist soldier, but the soldier did not get any punishment. thats just one example of volumes of zionist crimes against humanity and the oppressed palestinians (christian, jew, muslims alike).

I am not a Zionist, I am not even a Jew nor a Mossad Agent, but I am a Realist & an Iranian who seeks The Best for Iran.

you talk like a zionist, i think you are a jew or a mossad agent (either that or ur just a racist peace of shit and a lost kid). You are not a realist, you are crazy schizophrenic. YOu are an iranian(?) who preaches hatred against others. what will our arab brothers and sisters do in iran if someone like u took power. our arab population is more iranian that most persians. they faught saddam more bravely that persians, our azers and lors faught for iran than most persians. MKO terrorists who were persians, sided with saddam to kill our children, to attack our country, while our arab muslim and shia population sacrificed everything to safe gaurd our beloved land and i want to thank them dearly and promise them aslong as REAL persians are out there in iran, we wont led racist bastards such as ahreeman to take power. promise is a promise.

Iran is a nation of more than 80 different ethinicities. Iran is not persian, iran is beautiful because of its ethinic diversity, Persia is awestern word for our country. IRAN IS OUR NATION. iran will be tolerant toward arabs muslims, jews chiristian, anyone alike.

Say NO TO RACISM people.
SAY NO TO CHAUVINISM.
SAY NO ANIT-ISLAMIC OR ANY ANTI-RELIGIOUS PROPAGANDA.

WE are all mixed. there is not aryanism. its because of us being mixed with arabs, turks, mongols and many more that our people are what they are today, rich of culture rich of history, rich of brains and beautiess

SAY NO TO AHREEMAN, THE AMERICAN AGENT.
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Antisemitism in Iran

Postby JIZ » Mon Jan 09, 2006 4:39 am

Dear Shahanshah,

When you say that Iranians do not hate Jews - please ask a Jew to say that. If you are not a Jew - then shut up your mouth!

I am a Jew, I lived in Iran, my ancestors lived in Iran 2700 years.

Iranians are one of the most antisemitist peole in the world.

The ridiculous part is that you think that you are so noble - you are not racist. Ha! You are almost Nazis. You never try to learn how you really treated Jews. Why? Because Jews should be grateful that they are even alive!

Anti-Zionism is a phrase creaed in the 60's by the antisemitists to exlude themselves from the racism dictionary. Nice try - but we are not stupid. This mask is full of holes.

Anti-Zionism = Antisemitism.

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Postby Shahanshah » Fri Mar 17, 2006 1:58 am

hey jizz

why not we ask a JEW?

No, anti-Zionism is not anti-semitism :

http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/commen ... 25,00.html
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Postby Emam Kooni » Tue Mar 21, 2006 11:43 pm

[b][color=blue]This is supper cool. Who is the Jew here and who is not? I heard that the way Nazi’s separated Jews from non Jews, was by physically examining their respective “shelongsâ€
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Postby Ahreeman X » Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:18 am

Shahzadeh Khanum Feshang-ol Saltaneh:

What is it with you & inspecting people's Schlongs?

You pronounce English with such Thick German Accent! I recognize that anywhere, because my Mom does the same thing! Are you an Iranian_German?!

That figures! Now we know why your spelling is Fragged! You speak German, English & Persian, you have learned all three, but now you are mixing up all three! So you are Fragging Up all three! Not to worry, you are not alone! My Mom also does that!

You see, when my Mom speaks English, she sounds like:

Hitler on Crack!

Thank God, Mom is not an IPC reader, or else she would've crucify me!

So,

Why are you insisting on people to take off their pants? Are you aching for a peak? And let's suppose everyone is taking off their pants, how would you distinguish between Iranian Jews & Non Jews, they both are circumsized?!

Is there a specific measurement trick or Gene Pull which you will pull? Inform us?

BTW, no Jews here, I am an Aryan Atheist & Haji is a Hemite Muslim!

Wait a second, don't tell me all this time, you were not two people (Mother & Daughter) or (Sister & Daughter), but Two Beings in one body (same as myself & Haji), Shahzadeh Khanum Sue & her Nanaz Sue Jr.?!

You see, we are learning more & more about you!

So far we got:
An Iranian_German being, consisting of two characteristics (Sue & her Poon)!

Woman, Let go of people's Schlongs!

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Postby Emam Kooni » Fri Mar 24, 2006 1:46 pm

"Meshooga"-X,

I like your mom already; your mom is wise. Perhaps she has, as well, told U:
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And, don’t worry about your tiny-tiny secret, it shall remain a secret.
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