Camran Mirza:
As promised, I am back to respond,
“I heard this verse on an Iranian radio quoted from Quran, EXPERT’S OPINIONS CANNOT BE ACCOUNTED FOR, ONLY DROM ORDINARY PEOPLE ARE ACCEPTED. No wonders why Iran prospering so fast!”
Expert and Biased due to employment are two different things.
“BTW, how did you know I was an eBay merchant?”
Didn’t I tell you before? Ahreeman is a God, he knows all and he is everywhere.
“ However, I was pointing out sellers to be far more important than buyers throughout the commerce world.”
Another bias due to employment statement.
“For your information,”
I been on eBay longer than you have and way before you had become an eBay merchant, so you do not need to inform me about eBay rules!
“under eBay rules, buyer must pay for their purchase, otherwise get kicked out (after 3 warnings),”
No kidding?!
“buyers don’t much options as sellers do as well as eBay was made for sellers not the buyers.”
More biased statements due to employment situation.
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However, I do see your point on the subject and I do respect your opinion.
“Tell me, what would happen to a person if not respected? “
Hung upside down by the balls, the same as Mussolini!
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You see, this is all depending on how you see the issue.
“Some people see, others just look!! “
And some drink too much Stolichnaya with Mast o Khiar chashni and then reply to posts in IPC when their heads are warm!
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This is why we have been sitting in exile for 30 years.
“You have. “
What I wrote was metaphoric but what you wrote was sarcastic!
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This is why the most educated elements of Iran have been sitting in exile for 30 years fighting amongst themselves,
“EDUCATION DOESN’T GUARANTEE ANYTHING, BEHAVIOR DOES! “
Education guarantees many things, but behavior is a learned reaction for animals (including human)!
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, yet the most illiterate elements of Iran (Hezbollah, Mullahs and Muslim) have been ruling Iran for 30 years!
“They are not illiterate people, because they can read and write. Maybe you mean uneducated?”
Maybe you need to seize being a Mullah Loqati (after 8 years), and finally pay attention to the core of the subject.
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Regarding Morality, I know you have a beef with it! On the other hand, I see Morality or shall I say the lack of it, as the sole root of all our problems.
“Morality is the principle of rights. Like every other principle, it is made of details. If there are flows in any of the details, the relevant principle becomes unstable. That is why the question for Morality is constantly under scrutiny; cause details cannot be justified. To justify the details, you have to open claws after claws, there you find yourself inside a constitution. “
For a Mullah Loqati, you surely make many spelling/grammar mistakes:
It is Flaws, not Flows
It is Clause not claws
So on …..
Have you heard of microsoft word spelling check?
The standard for morality and its detailed clause are depending on the source establisher of the morality laws. In this case, the morality we are talking about is my moral law and its codes; however, the council’s proposed arguments and debates are to make my law better and to evolve it (Council consisting of you, Amir, others who have been arguing this issue in the past ….).
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Our people are schooled (but not educated).
“Could you elaborate on that? “
Gladly:
Many people own university degrees; however, this does not automatically grants them a logical, rational, scientific, practical and constructive brain to trouble shoot, analyze matters and seek solutions about the universe.
Madrak savad nemiyareh!
Billions are schooled, but only a few are truly educated.
Education is a personal thing, self-thought from owning a rational mind to have capability of logical reasoning. Education is also learned from rational masters whom are rare in the society.
Any Asshole with a initial Dr. before his name, is not necessarily worth listening to or even having a dialogue with. Gav O Guspand could be Doctors too! Ex: Ahmadinejad in inxile and the majority of our exiled gurus!
Education is earned by the self and due to the years of personal research, study, rational thinking, scientific methods of trouble shooting, research and thinking. School can teach you so much to get a degree, but you are the one who educate yourself in the street and inside your books and due to consorting with great minds.
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Our people are cultured (but not guided)
“How should they be guided? “
By educating themselves.
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Our people are intelligent (but not in a positive way)
“What is the positive way?”
The rational way for embetterment of the society rather than solely the personal way to profit.
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Our people are traditional (but not progressive)
“Progressive towards what? “
Futurism, Science, Technology and philosophy all drafted to achieve a just, disease free, harmonized, orderly and highly educated society.
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Our people are fundamental (but Foreign Worshipers)
“Iranians are famous for their hospitality.”
You made another funny ….. at this rate in 100 years, you may become a stand up comic! You are developing a funny bone (how Un-Camran like)!
“BTW, I like the way “Our people” sitting in one column, looks artistic. “
Thank you. What can I say? I am an artist.
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Our problem is lack of Morality, because Iranians interpret the “lack of morality” as “Zerangi” (quickness and smart)!
“In my opinion, Iranians are on top of the range for moral standards. We have a different system of moral standards mandating our upbringing, which created the exact problem we face today, like a rose amongst thorns. We should have been brought up much more superficial and materialistic than just into the mean fullness of life.”
Exactly. The whole system must change. The system is so-called moral, but corrupt. The moral system must be logical and rational, but this system is based on Bull Shiite of the Arabo-Islamic kind!
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You have a beef with morality and my “Moral Revolution”.
“How do you say “Moral Revolution” in Farsi? “
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You are into “Words”.
“Of course! Words are what we made of (I mean our behavior). We display most of our behavior through our words that is why it is the most important explanation of our selves, history, present and the future. “
Words are the tools for communication. That’s why they are important. However, you also play many word games, that is why we call you the Mullah Loqati of IPC (amongst your other positions).
“Without it we would cease to live amongst people.“
I have seized living amongst the people, long time ago ……
Now I live amongst the plants!
I prefer plants over all animals. More peaceful living indeed ………..
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You see the “Language”, “Words” and “Communication” as the fundamental roots of our problem.
“I completely agree the language, words and communications are our fundamental roots to our make-ups, and therefore we should be extremely careful to choose how to speak or write. This is what I have been trying to say to you for years.“
I tell you what:
I try to write (Put words in to better format and use) to win more hearts.
You try to work on your spelling/grammar errors with a clear mind (when not drinking)?
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About the desired room in the club, are you joking? Being sarcastic again? If not, how will you go about it and what will you post in it? All the foreign words in the Persian language, starting from your favorite, French? That would take a third of the Persian language!
“I wasn’t joking. Make rooms for the club members to put in the foreign word that is used today’s Farsi, so people can see what words and from where have come into our language, so they know the criteria, like other room in the club for Persian dictionary. They will decide what to do with the knowledge.”
Do you think people will participate or we will end up doing the research to find the roots of each word and educating the people? More work for us amongst 1000 other chores? Are you willing to do the research and post all the info on each word? Or will this be a waste of space?
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In this articles, I will try my final attempt (reluctantly) to once more and for the last time, to gather all the scattered groups (tribes) of the Iranian Opposition together, or at least get them to start a dialogue if no where, at least in cyber space and in the:
Political Activists Room of the IPC Club
“Are you reluctant because you know it will be a fruitless effort?”
Yes and indeed it was fruitless.
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I am going to do this final effort, only because I have promised a comrade (a Student Movement Leader), presently residing in Evin Prison. In our last chat (while he was on a short leave from Evin for good behavior), I promised to give it one last try.
“Why make promises when reluctant. I make promise to do something when I like it wholeheartedly, otherwise fooling around. “
I am trapped with obligations towards comrades.
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If it works, it works,
“You see, you already doubting it.”
Yes indeed.
Mar Gazideh az Mar Mitarsad!
I tried it before (for 4 years)!
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but if it doesn’t, I’ll continue my Moral and Cultural Revolution and my Mass Education of the masses.
“It won’t work because you are doing it for the wrong reason, you are doing it for others sake, not your own. You will be reluctant to proceed. This also goes for your changing the country’s present regime and bringing it to the proper status as far as all matters concerned, because you are not doing it for yourself. In my humble opinion, no one is more important than the self-person; you would do faster and more efficient if was done for your own self. “
You have a point. On the other hand, I try to do for the people. Also on the other hand, I must be rational and realistic, so I don’t give false hopes to the masses.
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I will continue working on the students and youth, simply because:
The Old
The Opposition Leaders
The Intellectual Gurus
Had brought us nothing but misery for 30 years.
“Doesn’t matter who you turn into, your tactics will not progress because the strategy has flows.”
Flaws Flaws Flaws ……………. Get it?
Strategy has no flaws, strategy is perfect.
Tactics change via time process.
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My only Hope is the Youth. The Youth are whom I am working with.
“Yes of course, like every other hopes, it will only be a hope, empty from substance that cannot be materialized. “
Metaphor, get it?
“Hope” is a false word, designed for weak people, rich or poor; it will bring uncertainty, undetermined and destroys the will at random. “
Hope is hope, a metaphor for motivation. When used wisely in the speech, it makes miracles. Now go and lecture about how Miracles is a flawed term …………..
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Now I know that the terms “Morality” and “Hope” are enough to make you “Boksovat” and “Giripage”, but hey, digest and suffer in silence!
“I have no problem with morality, so long is used personally and privately. But “Hope” along with hundreds and thousands of other words are fossilized therefore abandoned by me. I am the pioneer of the “Literature Revolution” and am mastering it constantly and have more experience on it than the best university graduate in any field literature in the world. “
I support your “Literature Revolution”, even though I don’t practice it nor believe in your facilitation and implementation methods.
“You see, people claim to be modern, scientific and logical, but in all those fields they fail to show their pro claimed intentions when they communicate, therefore, to be with less words but genuine is superior to those with more words but fake, hence with so much educations in the world, the planet earth is rapidly depleting. “
Is this sarcasm towards me or a general statement?
“Kind regards
Cam”
How kind?
I truly enjoy these philosophical and fundamental discussions with you.
Cheers
AX