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“I'm not going to debate as such but I will make a few points about my article.”
“I do not doubt that the Monarchy is an outdated form of government as I mentioned in my article however I cannot say that the Pahlavi's have done nothing for us (similar to what you said).”
“Mohammad Reza Shah's problem was that he was quite religious,”
“even in his autobiography 'The Shah's Story' I quote him as saying "My Quran never left my side". This segment of his personality I believe as you mentioned lead him to letting much of the Mullahs to get away with their actions, in the beginning.”
“His regime was semi-secular”
“and even in his autobiography he said it was not just the Monarchists that kept his father in power as a King but also those within the Shia Clergy because they believed that a Republic would lead to secularism and the only true way to keep Shia principals in Iran is to keep a Monarch. This is part of the 1906 constitution of 'Persia' (later Iran in 1936) that said traditions of Shiaism must be preserved by the Shah as a reference to traditions of earlier Monarchs such as the Safavids. It is true what you said that he more than his father was a man for religion.”
“It is true that the Shah did not teach his followers or his people to think much for themselves as he had fed them with his own dictation since his reign as Shah, even though until 1953 he was a 'Constitutional Monarch' (don't forget these were the EARLY' days of his reign). I believe Shah felt that people would divert the vision he had for Iran, which is why he put his vision into practice at warp speed, given also that he knew he wasn't going to live for very long and he knew that by the turn of the century/millennium their oil would have decreased, and he needed guarantee of Iran's prospering future once oil starts to run out.”
“Undoubtably he made a lot of mistakes and he will be remembered as the Shah that lost 2500 years of Kingdom to the hands of Mullahs.”
“However I do not think people could completely blame the man without putting much of the blame on the people themselves, but then again as you said also, it was probably Shah's fault for not educating people of the dangers of the 'Reds and Blacks' as much as he should have.”
“The Shah although despised the 'Reds', he actually would have preferred the revolution to have been 'Red', because at least they can be progressive e.g. like China. Communism is purely a political ideology where as Islamism is a Religious ideology implemented on politics (which is part of the Religious ideology), the Iranian public even back then were vast majority Muslim and would have known what Islamism stands for (although most do not anticiapate its extreme nature); therefore in the case of the 'Blacks' PART of this problem was the naivety and stupidity of the Iranian peoples that believed it was okay to mix politics with religion. The other half of the problem however was with Shah for (as we both agree) not educating peoples of the dangers of anti-secularism, no matter what degree it would be at i.e. liberal or conservative). On the basis of Communism however, this was a relatively new ideology upon Iranians, this should have been counteracted more by the Shah; and I fully blame him for this. he also blamed himself. “
“On the whole why I decided to bring this up is because no matter how many mistakes a leader makes; if his intentions were good and for the good of the people I cannot blame the man entirely.”
“The one thing I do knock him down for however was the two waves of arrests of his own government ministers, although he claims it was the fault of the then Prime Minister Azhari.”
Reza Khan is father of the nation, no denying.
Mohamad Reza had done much good but add all the mistakes and they proceed to overflow all the good.
Farah done some good but overall was and is a disappointment.
Azadeh Nikbakht, Shahriar Shafiq, Kourosh Aryamanesh were great Nationalists.
Reza Pahlavi is a disgrace.
Rest of the Pahlavis were and are corrupt, thieves, addicts, self serving and useless.
When you make a nation dependent on an element such as a person (Shah), a religion (Shiite) or an ideology (Marxism), then when that element falls, the whole nation falls.
Correction, Iran has 8000 years history of Kingdom but 2500 years history of Empire. Read IPC History section
Many factors were to blame, but isn’t this pathetic that a nation’s level of intellect, comprehension of global affairs, understanding of the world and education must be depended on one man (monarchy)?
50 years of Pahlavi Monarchy was a mistake.
Reza Khan had to become the first president of Iran.
If so, then today’s Iran would be a Heaven.
Today’s Iran would be a progressive, secular, federal and democratic republic same as Germany.
All of this could be avoided if a responsible Nationalist Republic with Elected President by the will of the intelligent people was in power in 1978.
Not that he married 3 times but he was cheating on all his wives with hookers! A person so self centered and with such low moral standards obviously do not care much about the lives of his closest comrades such as Hoveyda (My God Father), Ameli, Jahanbani and the rest of his cabinet and generals! That’s why he left everyone behind to die and Pahlavis escaped Iran with Billions to save their own necks. This is why Pahlavis are a disgrace and Shah’s actions and beliefs show in the results of his actions which is called the Islamic Republic of Iran.
“Kourosh Aryamanesh is one of the greatest Iranian nationalists in history and I'm glad someone else sees it my way.”
“Reza Pahlavi is useless and I do not support him to become Shah, I don't disagree with your article on him at all.”
“Yes, hence I support a Nationalist motivated Secular Republic. Monarchy is a dreadful form of government, what is worse however is a fully Theocratic government. Yes the monarchy was PART Theocratic which is another reason why I am dead against it.”
“Like I said its not much of a debate, I clearly agree with EVERYTHING you say,”
“its just I don't feel Shah is credited enough for his good points.”
“I didn't actually know this.”
“I've got an avatar now”
“Yeah I can read and write Tazi Persian fine.”
“Constitutional Monarchy is a dreadful idea, I know because I live in one and I'm dead against it. Its useless and money grabbing.”
“I'm working on the article in proper depth, it'll probably be more like a short book as it will go though every aspect of Islam with quotes from the earliest and most authentic scholars.”
“I am educating the youths of England, Iranian and non-Iranian. Sadly many of them although see the political struggle my way do not seem to see my view towards Islam in the same light.”
“Many consider me "racist" and a "bigot", that of course is the Muslims best defense mechanism in the West”
“and of course Western politicians and media have become puppets of Islamists.”
I bet with you that many of them say:
Islam is religion of peace and majority of Muslim want peace, but it is only a handful of Muslim who are terrorists and they are the Radical Islamists! Their interpretation of Islam is flawed!
I have been hearing this nonsense from the Western Media for so long that it makes me puke! The funny thing is that most of them do not say this because they are naïve, but they say this for political correctness, ratings, political reasons and opportunism!
They want to know what is the real Islam? Just ask us Iranians! We have been living under Islam’s boots for 1400 years and ongoing ……
This is what you need to tell them as the best logical reply:
Is a Jew racist against Nazis?
Is a black guy racist against Ku Klux Klan?
Is a Turk racist against Neo Nazi Germans?
Is a Croat racist against Serbs?
If your answer is yes, then I am also a proud racist against Islam and Muslim!
Politics is a bastard, it has no parents!
Political Correctness in the west, specifically England and America has become a disease and it will destroy the west unless people do something about it!
We are fighting an enemy who beheads us, but media does not say:
Muslims are killing blacks in Sudan.
Muslims are killing Iraqis in Iraq.
Muslims are killing Afghans in Afghanistan.
Muslims destroyed Twin Towers.
Muslims bombed in London.
“government have planned to make it compulsary to learn about Islam in every public school”
“I can honestly say they are the only ones who follow their faith correctly, as Muhamamd wanted”
“many if not most Iranians are ignorant of the fact that Islam is not peaceful, has nothing to do with peace, the prophet of Islam was an evil tyrannt”
Reza Khan dealt with Islam with a firm Iron hand. Reza Khan had no respect for Islam.
The problem is that we are fighting a religion. It would be much easier to fight an ideology (Marxism), but to fight a political ideology, which poses itself as a religion (Islam)!
“However from what I have learnt all religions are nonsense (even Christianity) but some are more sinister than others, Islam is by far the most evil amongst all religions without a shadow of a doubt.”
“Reza Khan was definitely a proud Iranian Nationalist and had no time for religion”
“but you are right its a shame about his son.”
“On the subject of defending a blind cause, I would seriously advise you to take a look at some political forums on social gathering websites all over the internet and see what young Iranians are saying about the political situation in Iran. Some actually defend the IRI (all of which live outside Iran) and those that oppose it, all support the Monarchy. If these are the future minds of Iran that people keep "bragging" about, then God help us.”
“when you fight Islam in your own country we are suddenly oppressing "all muslims" around the world”
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