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Reformists Block the Change in Iran!

Postby Ahreeman X » Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:19 pm

Reformists Block the Change in Iran!

Reformists are a block on the way to achieve secularism, democracy, human rights, federalism and freedom in Iran.

We are continuing this discussion from this thread:

Was Shah Really to Blame?
http://iranpoliticsclub.net/club/viewtopic.php?t=1433

Now we will discuss this very important subject. This discussion will be very beneficial for the youth and our readers. Soon I am going to write an article about this issue and publish it in the website. In a meanwhile read these opening articles and background information, before you follow the discussion:

The Reformists – The IRI’s “Golden Puppets”
http://iranpoliticsclub.net/politics/re ... /index.htm

Shirin Ebadi, Symbol of Reforms and Heroine of Islamic Democracy
http://iranpoliticsclub.net/politics/sh ... /index.htm

Crimes of Khatami
http://iranpoliticsclub.net/politics/sh ... /index.htm

Jahanshah Javid, Hezbollah in Disguise!
http://iranpoliticsclub.net/politics/sh ... /index.htm


Reformism is a Disease.

This is an epidemic disease. This is a disease specifically for those who assume that without sacrifice, hard work, bloodshed and war, they can achieve democracy, freedom, secularism, federalism, human rights and peace in Iran! The original Reformists are a part of the regime, yet the epidemic of Reformism is now caught up with the opposition! A Reformist can be Hezbollah, Neutral or even Opposition!


Types of Reformists

We have these types of Reformists:

Reformist Hezbollah
Reformist Left
Pacifist Reformists
Liberal Reformists



Reformist Hezbollah

This group are the reformist fraction of Hezbollah. They are regime’s insiders and part of the regime. They are not in opposition to the regime, but they are a fraction of the regime. They want reforms under the Islamic constitution. They do not want to end the reign of IRI but they want to reform IRI to a less bloodthirsty version and a more moderate version.

Example: Seyed Mohamad Khatami, Shirin Ebadi, Akbar Ganji, Jahanshah Javid, etc.


Reformist Left

These are the leftist groups who aided Mullahs to get to power in 1979. Since then, they have been working with them in hopes of reforming the IRI Regime! They are deal makers in hopes of position, funds and power. They are willing to make a deal with anyone who is in the power seat.

Example: Jebhe Meli Iran (INF), Tudeh Communist Party, Nehzat Azadi (IFM), Fedayian Aksariat (Fedaian The Majority), Hezbe Melat-e Iran (Iran Nation’s Party)


Pacifist Reformists

This group is basically neutral in the war with IRI. These are liberal pacifist peace groups who insist on not having a war with IRI. They are opposing mostly any type of war with IRI. They are against American or Western liberation of Iran. They are against any Iranian opposition war with IRI. They are against Armed Struggle. They are against Coup. They are against Revolution and
any other type of overthrow of the illegal IRI regime.

Example: 1001 Iranian Peace Movements in the west. No War, Make Love Groups!


Liberal Reformists

This group are opposition to IRI but specifically lately, they have been moving towards reformism. They are not Hezbollah Reformists, but they are Liberal Pacifists who oppose war, revolution, coup, bloodshed, armed struggle, western liberation or opposition liberation of Iran. They believe in reforms and they believe that IRI is reformable.

Example: Sam Ghandchi, Parvin Darabi, SKDC (Jaff Sassani) [somewhat], etc.


Reformists put their own self-interest above Iran’s Interest!

Reformist Hezbollah puts their own political interest above Iran’s interest.
They want to rule Iran under a more moderate theocracy.

Reformist Left puts their own opportunism above Iran’s interest!
They share power and sell themselves to the highest bidder! At Shah’s time, Jebhe Meli worked with Monarchists. Afterwards they worked with Tudeh Communists against the Monarchists. Then they worked with Mullahs against Monarchy. Today they are working with Mullahs in hope of Reforms. Tomorrow they sell their mothers for $ 5!

Pacifist Reformists have family inside Iran, so they don’t want them hurt; therefore, they want to avoid war, revolution, coup, civil war, liberation or any type of armed conflict to free Iran. They put their own interest above Iran’s interest to become free.

Liberal Reformists also put their own self-interest above Iran’s interest to become free. They put their philosophical, political and economical fundamentals above Iran’s interests.

For instance,

Sam Ghandchi, Parvin Darabi, and many other comrades have fundamental beliefs in:

Liberalism, Pacifism, and Socialism.

Therefore, for their own core belief system, they prefer to stick with the reforms, rather than revolution, American intervention, civil war, coup, opposition liberation or any other armed struggle to overthrow IRI.

These people also have family inside Iran and they don’t want them to get hurt; therefore, they oppose revolution or western intervention. They believe in reforms.

SKDC (Jaff Sassani) and alike groups are also not very keen on bloodshed, but they are keen on reforms. They are pro reforming Islam. They also have family inside Iran, so naturally they are not pro much bloodshed.

So as you see, it is not only Hezbollah who are reformists, but also neutral people are reformists and even opposition are reformists. This is why Reformism has become an epidemic.


Islam and IRI are not reformable

Imperial Iran was reformable but all of these opposition groups preferred to overthrow Shah rather than reform the regime! Instead of working with Shapour Bakhtiar, they worked with Khomeini to end Imperial Iran and bring on the IRI. Today they want to reform IRI! It is 30 years that they want to reform IRI.

Islam and IRI are not reformable. Reforms under the Islamic Theocracy is not a possibility. Islam believes in absolute control of every aspect of the society including but not limited to executive, legislative, judicial and every other pattern of the system. This is clearly stated in the Quran and words of Mohammed. The only way to reform Islam is to destroy Quran.

IRI is a true Islamic regime in the 21st century. To reform IRI is to destroy theocracy and Islam.

In other words, Islamic Reforms and IRI Reforms are nonsense. So why are these people trying to reform IRI?

Some do it for money.
Some do it for position.
Some do it for politcal power.
Some do it for self interest.
Some do it for personal peer interest.
Some do it to avoid harm to their family inside Iran.
Some do it to save their prestige and fundamental beliefs.
Some do it for philosophical reasons.
Some do it for pacifism.

And all of them are doing it for personal rather than national reasons.
All of them are putting their benefits above Iran’s benefits.


The bottom line is that:

No Substantial Change will ever occur in Iran without an Opposition Revolution or American Intervention.

No War = IRI Forever

Why?

If you give 5 Cents to a Mullah, you will never be able to get it back.
Now picture that we have given them a nation!
Do you really think that you can get it back without bloodshed?!


With this introduction, I will end this part and the opening of this topic. Next I will get to the discussion. Please do not hesitate to participate in this very important discussion.
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Postby Ahreeman X » Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:34 pm

Now let’s get to the discussion,

Aryan states ….

“I have noticed this, even many people of my parents generation who oppose the Islamic Republic seem to have this strange belief that Islam truly is a "peaceful" religion and they are adamant that these "fanatics" are wrong. However would you believe me if I told you that every time I get into this topic and fire out every inch of my Islamic knowledge to these "knowledgeable" people (including some of my relatives), I get called a "racist" and am often told that I am "too young/naive/westernized to understand Islam".”


To understand Islam is to read Quran and Hadith. Any literate junior high student can read Quran and understand it. The 90 percent of Quran is about Belly, Under Belly, Sex, Rape, Sodomy, Pillage, Murder and Pedophilia. What is there to understand?

“My point exactly. Reformism is still a Theocracy that leaves the door open to any corruption (i.e. the prevailing of those closest to Islamic institutions and Islamic hierarchy), manipulation (i.e. bending around "newly interpreted" laws to suit ones own personal beliefs) and violation to the prosperity of the people (i.e. Islamic principals forbidding Iranians to think beyond what Islam has sanctioned for them) and much more. Besides this the fact that Iran is still a Theocracy that abides by Islamic principals and is considered an "Islamic State" is bad enough, it kills our identity, it prioritizes our nation as Islamic before Iranian and it disconnects Iran from its culture and heritage. “


Reformists are showing the youth a more relaxed form of an Islamic State where in it, you can wear loose hejab, tight jeans, makeup, listen to heavy metal, rap, loud music, party hardy and be cool! As long as you let the youth to party and dress cool, then they can keep the Theocracy under the name of Moderate Islam.

This is where I must make a point:

The Evolution Factor

Do you recall your first posts in IPC, under a different ID, many years ago?

You were a monarchist or the least, a monarchist sympathizer (your own words).
You were a Devout Christian (your own words).

Now you call monarchy a dead and dreadful ideology.
Now you call Christianity nonsense.

You have been Changed since then. There is no doubt in my mind that in 4 years, you will change furthermore and much more than today! This is called Change. This is called Evolution. This is called moving towards perfection and logic.

If today, you were still a hardcore monarchist and Christian like 4 years ago, then this only meant that a substantial Change had not occurred in you. This would mean that you are Dogmatic.

Dogma is fanatical belief in a person, a religion or an ideology without any backing evidence or logic.

Dogmatic could be a religious dogmatic person who stagnated in time and has fanatical fixation on a religion, which avoids him to evolve to a higher state of conscience. Qods would be a great example. Qods stopped evolving and he got stuck in the 7th century AD.

Dogmatic could be a secular dogmatic person who stagnated in time and has fanatical fixation on a Shah, which avoids him to evolve to a higher state of conscience. Liberator would be a great example. Liberator stopped evolving and he got stuck in 1978.

Dogmatic could be an ideological dogmatic person who stagnated in time and has fanatical fixation on an ideology of Marxism Islamism, which avoids her to evolve to a higher state of conscience. Minoo Mojahed would be a great example. Minoo stopped evolving and she got stuck in 1980s.

Not many youth are able to break the shell and set free from dogma. It takes an unbiased and logical mind to think freely and without fixation on a person, a religion, a god or an ideology.

You are one of the minority who did evolve and is Changing towards perfection. This is called Social Evolution and Individual Recognition. This is the path towards human perfection and personal education.

Not all can be so strong to educate themselves, think freely, think logically and make a move to destroy Gods, Religions, Shahs, Ideologies and Cults. Not all are strong enough to become Free Thinking Individuals.

People are weak-minded. People need an escape system (a God, a Religion, a Shah, an Ideology, a …..) to escape to and to believe in. No matter how cheesy or stupid it may be (Reza Pahlavi, etc.) they need this myth to escape to in times of need.

Destruction of blind faith in any element (God, Religion, Shah, Ideology, etc.) is the first step towards Free Thought and Individual Intellect.

Keep on evolving towards perfection. You are on the right track.

Now back to our discussion …..

Reformists assume that they can reform IRI and reform Iran under the Islamic Constitution! In other words, they want to reform the True Islam (IRI)! Even if they reform IRI, then Iran will still remain a Theocracy, not a Democracy! Iran will become some type of moderate Islamic state under a more moderate Theocratic regime. Is this what we are fighting for?

“A true hero should not have to compromise with any of the fundamentalist groups. If it so happens that her plan is to bring them down from the inside, 1) She had the nerve to praise the IRI and claim to be on their side whether she meant it or not, 2) She has not done anything to show her true colours and 3) How can we trust her comrades to not try and re-establish the IRI whom she lied to about her agenda. “


Shirin Ebadi is an opportunist Muslim, not an Iranian. She even calls herself a “Muslim Woman”. Anyone who has respect for Shirin Ebadi, Akbar Ganji and alikes is confused, infected with the virus of Reformism and most likely in to “Compromise” and “Deals” rather than “Fundamental Revoltuion” to create a substantial “Change” in Iran!

“Laziness is ONE of the problems here, the major one is pure ignorance. They care so much of their friends and families and their well being yet have no true passion for their country's well being and condition. It is people like this that have prevented anything truly magnificent happening in Iran in the past 30 years. It goes to show if everyone keeps thinking of innocents all the time then nothing gets solved and you carry on your miserable existence in Dictatorship.”



A National Decline!

“When a nation had lost her will to fight and save her fundamentals, roots and essence, then there is something seriously wrong with that nation. An overall “Change” of values is needed to drag this nation back to her original path to glory and human civilization!”


Everyone wants to end IRI. Everyone is Anti IRI. No one wants to lift a finger. Everyone is looking towards others to take a step and all of them are looking towards America to make a move! How pathetic is that?

Nation of Cyrus and Darius had changed and devolved in to a nation of pansies and gay liberal pacifists!

Now we have a wanna be Shah (Reza de nim Pahlavi) who is begging the people to hand him a crown and throne!

Imagine if Reza Khan, Aqa Mohamad Khan, Nader, Shah Abbas, Yaqub Leis or Xerxes would have done the same (Reza Pahlavi style)!

Can you picture Nader Shah Afshar begging the people to conduct referendum and throw him a bone and hand him his crown?

Reza Pahlavi is a Liberal Pacifist. He used to vote for Khatami as a Reformist. He sincerely believed in Reforms under the Islamic constitution! Surprised? Why?

Afterall, Shah and Monarchs get their powers from God and Religion.

Now that Reza Pahlavi is disappointed from Reforms and Reformists, then he is pro peaceful civil disobedient reforms and referendums!

“I couldn't agree more. Th sad thing is with more and more young people becoming anti-war pacifists and lazy the chances are that without our previous generation to boost us, nothing will come of our nations future but a "reformed" Islamic Republic. If we are to make change then war or revolution is necessary, we should be willing to sacrifice our lives for our nation and fight to the death for Iran's National Pride and destroy the Islamic Republic once and for all. Believe me I would be the first to sign up for bloody battle with these Hell-raisers.”


Today’s Iranians are not Yesterday’s Persians!
What a true statement!

Today’s Iranians are lacking courage, pride, sacrifice, morality, bravery, purity, free thought, and most of all “Persianhood”!

No Balls, No Chutzpah, No Cajones! Iranians have become a nation of Bull Shiiters, Con Artists, Gay Liberals and Wussball Pacifists.

This is why yesterday we ruled the world and today we are in a Shiite hole!

The worst type of reformist is the Reformist Hezbollah and IRI Lobbyist who does it solely for dollars!

Gusaleh like Jahanshah Javid and Trita Parsi are the perfect examples!

Hezbollah IRI Lobbyists in USA (Trita Parsi - NIAC) Sue Author
http://iranpoliticsclub.net/movement/tr ... /index.htm

Voices for Peace Iranian Video, a Hezbollah – IRI Production
http://iranpoliticsclub.net/politics/vo ... /index.htm


Supermen and Public
Overall Analysis

Let me conclude this part by informing you that, you should never get disappointed because your peer says different. Right here and right now, do you know how many people do read this discussion? I bet with you, many of them are youth and by reading this discussion, they will get enlightened or at least this discussion will make them to think twice and reevaluate their values! This is how we make a difference and effect the minds of the youth. We make the Iranian youth to think and see the other side of the story! Without us, they would have never seen the other side of the story!

IPC is where we show the youth, another way, a better way, the individual way of free thought where we use logic rather than dogma to see the world and readjust our values.

Hypothetically if we were part of the crowd and the same as others, then that would have been a problem!

We are not here to win a popularity contest!
We are here to make a Change!
Change All patterns of the Iranian lifestyle.

Do you think Ferdowsi was popular in his day?
Do you think Yaqub Leis was popular in his day?

Hell No!
Ferdowsi wanted to change the language back to pure Persian.
Yaqub forced Iranian universities to teach Persian again! He forced the government and Imperial court to speak Persian. After 222 years of forced Arabic, Yaqub revived the Persian language. Not that he liberated Iran but he forced Iranians to speak Persian again!

Iranians were fighting the change. Iranians are not susceptive to Change. They are pro Status Quo. If it was up to the Iranian majority, then today we would still speak Arabic and had become an Arab nation! That’s Iranians for you. Of course at the time they hated Ferdowsi and Yaqub Leis! So what’s new?

222 Years of Struggle for Independence of Iran
http://iranpoliticsclub.net/library/eng ... /index.htm

Change has always been enforced in Iran by the elite few Supermen (Friedrich Nietzsche)!
If it was up to the public, we would have still lived in the caves and happy with eating Abgusht and Nun Sangak, Persian Style!

So do not lose your motivation and get despaired that you are not one of the popular peer who agrees with the average peer!

You are not Sheep
You are on your way to become a Superman (Friedrich Nietzsche)!
Thus Spake Zarathustra!
Amen!

While your peer are not even in “The Clear” and in “Peace” with themselves,
You are building the Tomorrow!

Once again I must state that:

Pacifism = IRI Forever

How can you Free Iran without War?
How could Cyrus build the Persian Empire without War?
How could George Washington build America without War?
How can you build Democracy without War?


These Sissy, Faggy, Lazy Ass, Syphilitic, Liberal Pacifist In-Tell-Egg-Chew-Alls assume that God will come down from the skies, intervene and hand them Democracy in Iran under the Testicles of Islam, decorated with theocracy! Hell’s Bells!

Now pay attention,

I want you to look at yourself as a Neo Ferdowsi and Yaqub Leis. At their time, they were not popular but afterwards, they become legends.

You as a Revolutionary Nationalist Iranian youth are not here to win popularity contests and steal your peer’s hearts! You are here to make them think, make them to use their brains (if any) and provide a “Change” to Evolve their brains.

World consists of:

Those who make things happen,
Those who watch things happen,
Those who wonder what has happened?!

Which one are you?


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Postby yaninikolai » Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:07 pm

Hi Ahreeman

I really appreciate your kind words to my changing over the years. Reading and educating myself has inspired me. I continue to change and hopefully you are right in that one day I will be able to express myself better in my articles and appeal to much wider and more interested audience.

Liberal Reformists

This group are opposition to IRI but specifically lately, they have been moving towards reformism. They are not Hezbollah Reformists, but they are Liberal Pacifists who oppose war, revolution, coup, bloodshed, armed struggle, western liberation or opposition liberation of Iran. They believe in reforms and they believe that IRI is reformable.

Example: Sam Ghandchi, Parvin Darabi, SKDC (Jaff Sassani) [somewhat], etc.


This took me some time to swallow considering that IPC often posts their material. I had no idea that Sam Ghandchi and Parvin Darabi were Reformists. From what I knew Parvin Darabi is a renown critic of the government and opposes them completely, criticizing Khomeini, the Islamic Republic and even Shirin Ebadi. When you refer to them as reformists do you mean literally or they are just as bad as them because they are pacifists?


To understand Islam is to read Quran and Hadith. Any literate junior high student can read Quran and understand it. The 90 percent of Quran is about Belly, Under Belly, Sex, Rape, Sodomy, Pillage, Murder and Pedophilia. What is there to understand?


Exactly it really get on my nerves when I see Iranians who go on about how proud they are of the History and Culture and yet also have the nerve to call themselves Muslim and praise Imam Ali. They prove only one thing; they know absolutely NOTHING. Many of them identify that Iran follows Shiaism as its state religion and so therefore Shiaism and Iran suddenly go hand in hand. The most amazing thing is that many of them at least know or understand that Islam was forced upon Iran in the 7th Century yet still choose to identify themselves as Muslim. The problem here is that made up Shia doctrines such as Nahuj Al-Balagha and Kitab al-Kafi have made up so much rubbish about Imam Ali loving Iran that Iranians that over the years many have found a place in Islam to identify themselves with, however most don't even know these so called authentic hadiths. What one can actually learn about Shiaism if they read about it, is that Razi (Not Zakaria Razi) and Kulaini who wrote these books, were Persian Muslims who were clearly making up garbage to recruit Iranians into Shiaism. The only true History of Islam is in the Sunni doctrines where you see much of the derogatory stories of Muhammad, why would the Sahaba who loved him lie about these stories which Iranians have managed to eliminate over the years. The Shia hadiths do not even add up to the Quran's message even Khomeini criticized the Nahuj al-Balagha to be partly made up.


If you give 5 Cents to a Mullah, you will never be able to get it back.
Now picture that we have given them a nation!
Do you really think that you can get it back without bloodshed?!


I completely agree we need bloodshed in order to bring about a full Secular and Democratic government to Iran, and we should be opening our arms to whatever means necessary. Most Iranians want eradication of the government, those naive idiots who support the Reformists on basis of Pacifism alone only see the Reformists as the "easy way to Liberation", however once a war breaks out and finishes I truly believe that Iranians including those who were willing to accept "Reforms" for just Pacifist reasons alone would see no point returning to to old Archaic system. Pacifists who claim they fight for Democracy and Human-Rights although might resist the war would likely see no point in recreating 'Square One' once 'Square One' has been destroyed. The issue would be to put a sock into the mouth of every pro-IRI supporter, whatever party they pledge their allegiance to, but by that point is likely to be minimal. Its not like Iran would be any kind of challenge to the West any time soon especially if their new government is under the watchful eye of the USA. We probably would be puppets for the next few years, however I would rather see us under an American Puppet than an Islamic one.

Why should the rest of the world including a state full of intelligent intellectuals like Israel suffer because of the IRI. It shows how selfish Iranians are in way, its okay for the rest of the world to be worried but not IRI. The people of Iran have had so many chances to do something about it in these last 30 years yet DONE NOTHING. They should do themselves a favor and start a Revolution as soon as possible before Western intervention is only solution, it would save the rest of us hassle, the rest of the world hassle, save lives from the hands of the IRI and save lives as a result of war from the West (as the next solution).



No Substantial Change will ever occur in Iran without an Opposition Revolution or American Intervention.

No War = IRI Forever


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Postby Ahreeman X » Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:59 pm

Aryan:

“I really appreciate your kind words to my changing over the years.”


It is not flattery, but it is a fact. You are the perfect example of Evolution. The Evolution requires Change. Majority are not comfortable with Change. Iranians are susceptive to Change. This is why we have 1000 outdated political parties with declining memberships and popularity, still preaching dead ideologies:

Monarchy, Marxism, Marxist Islamism, Mosadeqism, Islamism, etc.

Obviously the philosophical, economical and political renaissance had never hit Iran and this is why the Industrial Revolution had passed us by! We preferred to stick with Backward Arabo-Muslim rather than evolve with the west! Arabs had dragged us down with their Allahic Virus (Islam)!

We still do not learn!

Olaq (mothers) produce Olaq (Children) who scream:

Allah O Akbar, Javid Shah, Rajavi Rajavi, Our Way is Mosadeq’s Way, Proletariat of the World Unite, and other Bull Shiite!

World is going forward and Iranians are going backwards to old outdated and dead values and garbage like Monarchy, Marxism, Marxist Islamism, Mosadeqism, Islamism, and the syphilis of Reformism!

It seems like there is Pehen (Cow Shiite) in our people’s brains rather than Gray Matter Brain!

To tell you the truth, I do not even answer many of my e-mails simply because I have neither more time nor tolerance to argue with the Brain Dead, Reactionary, Illiterate Fanatics.

I discuss with someone on the forum or on the website, which I am confident that the youth and public will read, enjoy and learn something about this discussion. I am tried of discussing the same old crap with dogmatic reactionary people who still live in the past and have nothing to cling to except a dead Shah, a dead religion, a dead political ideology and a dead selfish old man (Mosadeq). These people live in the past and they refuse to evolve. We are about the future. We are about tomorrow.

Who cares if Shah fragged Rajavi, Shah fragged Mosadeq, Kianuri fragged Shah and Khomeini fragged them all?!

They are all dead and gone and no one cares and no one gives a flying fandango!

Future of Iran will have nothing to do with all of these dead ideologies, cults, their dogmatic followers and their fanatical members.

Islam, Monarchy, Mojahedin, Marxism, Mosadeqism, other garbage are yesterday’s news. We are building the tomorrow; we are building the future youth’s brains. We are not going backward in time, but we are moving forward towards progress.

Nationalism, Futurism, Science, Federalism, Secularism, Logic, Democracy, Progress …..

These are words that Iranians are strangers with them and we are injecting them to their brains, so hopefully in the future, they will rise up, revolt and end IRI and send Islam to Hell.


This opposition is worthless and that is why I am now concentrating on the youth inside and outside Iran. Their fathers are worthless thus they have sinned! Now we concentrate on the youth, the future of Iran.

BTW

When you get time, you need to write a short bio and replace or revise the present one on the website, because you have evolved since you wrote that. If someone reads that bio, they may assume that you are a hardcore Christian. You need to update your bio in your index page.

“Reading and educating myself has inspired me.”


That’s the way to do it. No one will educate you except yourself. Street and College Education via self study is the key.

“This took me some time to swallow considering that IPC often posts their material. I had no idea that Sam Ghandchi and Parvin Darabi were Reformists. From what I knew Parvin Darabi is a renown critic of the government and opposes them completely, criticizing Khomeini, the Islamic Republic and even Shirin Ebadi. When you refer to them as reformists do you mean literally or they are just as bad as them because they are pacifists?”


A Reformist does not have to be an IRI Reformist or Hezbollah! When someone believes that IRI will change by reforms from the within, then this is called reformism. All of these people are under this impression that people of Iran will reform IRI. This reform will be peaceful. There will be civil disobedience, petitions, peaceful protests, civil rights movements, referendums and etc. Eventually one day IRI and Mullahs will say goodbye and peacefully leave Iran to the people.

This is why all of them are against Revolution, Coup, Bloodshed, American Intervention, American Liberation or Opposition Liberation.

Reza Pahlavi, Sam Ghandchi, Parvin Darabi and thousands like them are opposition members to IRI. Presently all of them are critical of Hezbollah Reformists, but the irony is that themselves, they are Reformists! They are Liberal Pacifist Reformists. What else can we call them?

They oppose violence, war and revolution! They truly think that Mullahs will just pack up and leave Iran by Non Violence! What else can we call them but Reformists? They sincerely believe that IRI is reformable!

All of them cheer for a non-existing and scattered Civil Rights Movement inside Iran and the Non Violent Peace Movement Outside Iran.

Reza Pahlavi, Sam Ghandchi, Parvin Darabi and 1000s of Liberal Pacifist Reformists like them are believers of a Flawed Ideology. They are parts of this opposition and they are our comrades, but they are the causes of this 30 years stagnation! Their Non Violence is the roots of our disease.


Why they are Afraid to Debate me?

What I have in common with Sam Ghandchi is Futurism.
What I have in common with Parvin Darabi is Anti Islamism.
What I have in common with Reza Pahlavi is Anti Theocracy.


All of them are my opposition comrades; however, this does not change the fact that their Non Violence blend of Liberal Pacifist Reformism path will take us nowhere but deserts of Turkistan!

Sam Ghandchi admires people like Shirin Ebadi and Jimmy Carter.
Parvin Darabi admires US Liberal Policies of Anti Conflict with IRI.
Reza Pahlavi voted for Khatami!

All of them have flawed and poisonous beliefs. They are on our side but they are misguided due to their liberal pacifist reformist delusions. All of them know that their ideologies are flawed.

Why do you think that all of them refuse to debate me on a public forum on Internet? They know that I will slaughter them and their ideologies!


Why IPC Publishes Them?

Just because I publish their good and wise articles on economy, Islam, Philosophy and Iran, it does not put me in agreement with them! We must use the best that each of these comrades have to offer and expose their flaws. This is called democracy.

Yes, I appreciate what Sam Ghandchi and Parvin Darabi have to say about various subjects; however, I believe that their suggestions of Internationalism, Pacifism, Liberalism, Non Violence and Reformism are poisonous for Iran and Iranians.

Sam Ghandchi and Parvin Darabi are 2 of many IPC Authors.
What makes you think that I agree with all IPC authors?
Every IPC author has his own philosophy, so is Cat, so are you.
This does not mean that I have to agree with everybody!


“The Shia hadiths do not even add up to the Quran's message even Khomeini criticized the Nahuj al-Balagha to be partly made up. “


Islam is not reformable
IRI is not reformable
Mullahs are not reformable


“I completely agree we need bloodshed in order to bring about a full Secular and Democratic government to Iran, and we should be opening our arms to whatever means necessary. “


Without bloodshed and sacrifice, no freedom and democracy will be achieved in Iran. Those who are against it, are either:

IRI Agents (Jahanshah Javid)
IRI Lobbyists (Trita Parsi)
Lazy Ass Pacifists [1001 Iranian Piss (Peace) Movements]
Opposition LaLa Landish (Reza Pahlavi, Parvin Darabi, Sam Ghandchi, etc,)

And all of these people do put their own personal benefits above the benefits and salvation of Iran. They care about the safety of their families inside Iran more than prosperity of the Mullah Free Iran of the future. This is why they oppose violence, revolution and liberation.

Liberalism is a disease
Pacifism is a disease
Reformism is a disease


Some people have all the above. They are triple diseased and owners of severe illnesses! They are ill people. So what if they are my family or friends and IPC Authors?

“We probably would be puppets for the next few years, however I would rather see us under an American Puppet than an Islamic one”


Iran is not free! Iran has been an Islamic puppet for 1400 years! It is better to be a western civilized puppet than an Arabo-Muslim reactionary puppet!

“Why should the rest of the world including a state full of intelligent intellectuals like Israel suffer because of the IRI. It shows how selfish Iranians are in way, its okay for the rest of the world to be worried but not IRI. The people of Iran have had so many chances to do something about it in these last 30 years yet DONE NOTHING. They should do themselves a favor and start a Revolution as soon as possible before Western intervention is only solution, it would save the rest of us hassle, the rest of the world hassle, save lives from the hands of the IRI and save lives as a result of war from the West (as the next solution).”


This is called logic but Iranians do not have logic!


A Nuclear Iran is Great, but …

There is nothing wrong with a Nuclear Iran. Actually Iran should be a nuclear power, but what Iran? A responsible and respectful Iran towards the international law or Islamic Republic of Iran?

Iran of the future will and must be nuclear, but the terrorist state of Islamic Republic cannot be nuclear because it is a threat to the civilized world.

Reformists do not seem to understand this fact Specifically the “Reformist Left” prefers to see a nuclear IRI, independent of USA and the west, rather than a functioning and prosperous non nuclear Iran pro USA and the West!

They prefer to see our economy destroyed and Iran full of whores, criminals, corrupt and Mullahs, but in the face of USA, rather than a progressive, economical giant and a western Iran pro USA!

This is how much these people are so-called Anti Imperialist, Anti West, and Anti Salvation of Iran!

In other words, they rather see Iran destroyed than to be pro USA.
They rather support Mullahs than to agree with USA.
This is how delusional they are.
They are not Nationalists, but far from Nationalists.

A Nationalist wants the prosperity of Iran.
These people want the prosperity and safety of their family and Anti American Ego!


What we are saying is that:

If Iranians do not have the courage and determination to change regime and free Iran, then by all means allow USA to do it!

Mullahs will not go away without an Iranian Opposition’s Bloody Revolution or an American Liberation.

Non Violence = IRI Forever

Everything else is nonsense.


What is Our Real Problem?

Our problem is cowardice. Our people are cowards. They don’t want to lift a finger and they don’t want to allow the USA or the West to also lift a finger. They just rather this Bull Shiite (IRI) continues on forever and holds the civilized world as a hostage.

Well, this garbage will not fly forever. I rather see a million people dead but a free Iran as the result, than to see IRI lives another day!

I despise Arabo-Islamic Sub Culture and everything representing them.
If Iran should remain an Islamic Theocracy, then by all means I prefer to nuke it myself, cleanse the Muslims and restart the Persian Race of logical people.

Iran as is (IRI) cannot be good for Iranians and the globe. This is not an ideology or a nation, but this is Syphilis of the Allahic Virus.


We Have the Power!

We have the power, the tool, this greatest weapon (Internet) in our possession. We are educating the future generation. Internet is the greatest weapon in our hands. Aryamanesh could only dream of having this tool and creation of this cyber empire (IPC). We have this weapon and we know how to use it. This is why at the end, Democracy will defeat Theocracy.

So it all comes down to:

What are we? Men or Mice?
What are we? Persians or Arabo-Muslim?
Who are we? Noble Civilized Persians or Savage Muslim Beasts?


IRI must go, by all means possible.


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Postby yaninikolai » Tue Aug 19, 2008 6:38 am

Hiya Buddy,

Allah O Akbar, Javid Shah, Rajavi Rajavi, Our Way is Mosadeq’s Way, Proletariat of the World Unite, and other Bull Shiite!


This is true, Iranians today seem to look too much into the past and not enough to the future. The problem with Iranians is they go on about bringing "Democracy" but never seem to do anything about establishing it. This word has started becoming a bit of a joke because it is being misused time and time again by some of the opposition groups. We hear it all the time how the Mojahidin wish to establish "Democracy" and how the "Islamic Democracy" can be formed under the Reformists IRI but all parties are using this term as a gimmick because they know its what people want. However they all fall short (some very short i.e. the IRI) of the true Democracy Iran wants, as you say is just for Power and Money. Some of these opposition groups are like Parents at Christmas trying to make their kids happy with cheap alternatives to what they really want.

Anyone can call themselves a Democracy, Khatami called Iran a Democracy, North Korea is called a Democracy (Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea) but what people don't seem to get is Democracy is no good without Secularism, Freedom of Speech and Freedom of choice and all are within limits that do not violate the Secular Democracy, i.e. another uprising of Islamists. An Islamist uprising is a violation of Free and Secular Democracy and should not count as freedom of speech and freedom of choice. Iran should and must embrace this type of ideology if it is to pursue its future in a progressive manner.



Just because I publish their good and wise articles on economy, Islam, Philosophy and Iran, it does not put me in agreement with them! We must use the best that each of these comrades have to offer and expose their flaws. This is called democracy.


You are right but as I mentioned before also; if someone was to agree with a theocracy and fight for it, this I do not accept as Democracy but a violation of Democracy because their wish is to eradicate Secularism and Freedom of choice with an Archaic and backward system that disallows true Democratic incentives. I cannot and will not compromise with anyone who believe keeping the IRI for sake of innocents, losing people is sad I and I am not cold hearted about it but this is a selfish and inefficient way to recreate a better system in our nation. To fight for Iran, its people and its heritage for a future of bliss is far more important than losing innocents, we are not going out of our way to kill them but if they die they died for a good cause. If everyone thinks Pacifism forever then nothing will get done and everyone carries on the vicious cycle in which more would suffer by the hands of the government anyway but most importantly we cannot let the Theocrats win otherwise this world would be short lived. It is like an investment; we may lose something valuable to us now but gain something a whole lot better in the future and Iranians in the future have us to thank for pathing their way to a better and more prosperous life. For the sake of our selfishness why should the future of Iran suffer.



Iran of the future will and must be nuclear, but the terrorist state of Islamic Republic cannot be nuclear because it is a threat to the civilized world.


I agree it must, but like you I believe under the IRI it should not have Nuclear power and rather than Iranians protesting for the IRI's rights for Nuclear Power, they ought to use their heads and think why they are not allowed. I

If they want Nuclear Power then first get rid of the regime,then they may have their rights.



Well, this garbage will not fly forever. I rather see a million people dead but a free Iran as the result, than to see IRI lives another day!


Finally someone who shares my belief.


I have some questions for you


1. How do you think Iranians could change the course of peoples Pacifism to Patriotism?

2. If Iran was to one day be the Democratic state that we all dream, would you believe parties with backward ideologies to not be allowed to run for government (i.e. Mujahedin, Tudeh, Religious Groups (being advisable but not en-forceful)?




3. Do you see change occurring any time soon?



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Postby Ahreeman X » Tue Aug 19, 2008 2:20 pm

Aryan:

Good day to you comrade.

“all parties are using this term as a gimmick because they know it’s what people want.”



Revising Democracy

All parties are using it for political reasons but most of them do not even believe in the true meaning of democracy. The latest fad according to Middle Eastern Authorities is that:

“Democracy means different things to different people, so democracy in Middle East means different than what it means in the west!”

Many such as King of Jordan said that! In other words, middle easterners are now creating a neo meaning for democracy out of their rectums! That’s the type of democracy Shirin Ebadi and Seyed Mohamad Khatami have been trying to invent!

In reality democracy has a definition:

Government of people, by the people and for the people.

In Middle East, democracy goes in the rectum and comes out sort of brownish! It becomes Islamic Democracy, Life Time Republic Democracy, Marxist Islamist Democracy, Constitutional Monarchy Democracy, Absolutist Monarchy Democracy, Iranian Style of Monarchy Democracy, My Grand Ma Taught Me How Democracy, and other Bull Shiite Democracy!

Middle Easterners are world famous for inventing imaginary LaLa Landish meanings for scientific western terms! They will do anything to revise and degenerate the scientific western terminologies! Islamic Democracy and Iranian Style Monarchist Democracy are such terms!


Limited Knowledge of Democracy

Another factor is that:

People in Iran and Middle East do not even know the true meaning of Democracy! They assume democracy means freedom, chaos, western corruption and lots of sex!


Democracy Friday Bazaar

Democracy in Middle East is something that everybody wants and no one can get it because they do not even know what it means! Politicians take advantage of this situation and sell their various types of bull Shiite ideologies as democracy to the masses!

Monarchists, Mojaheds, Mosadeqists, Marxists and everybody else are selling democracy in this Hot Swap Meet and Flee Mart of Iranian demand!

Welcome to the Iranian Democracy “Jom’e Bazaar” and all political parties are selling their version of democracy, but no one is buying any, because people are once bitten, twice shy! The funny thing is that the customers (Iranians) do not even know what they are looking for!


What Does Democracy Mean to Different Iranians?

Democracy to some youth is western chaos and corruption. They love to have it.

Democracy to Maktabi Traditionalists are exactly the above and that’s why they avoid westoxication interpreted as democracy!

But my favorite are Fundamentalist Muslims. At least they are honest with themselves and the world. They say:

“We hate democracy. Islam disagrees with democracy. Islam is not religion of peace. Islam is religion of Jihad.”

“Some of these opposition groups are like Parents at Christmas trying to make their kids happy with cheap alternatives to what they really want.”


Excellent Analysis, analogy and metaphor.

“Democracy is no good without Secularism, Freedom of Speech and Freedom of choice “


Correction:

Democracy does not exist without Secularism, Freedom of Speech and Freedom of choice! Democracy in this case becomes Totalitarianism such as:


People’s Republic of Communist China

China is not a people’s republic because it exploits her own people!
China is not Communist because it is the 3rd largest capitalist economy in the world!
China is not even a republic because people do not elect the president!

China is a Totalitarian Capitalist Regime. A regime with no labor laws, no environmental laws, no respect for the international laws, solely existing as a money making machine to bring a rich bubble economy to the people to shut them up. Government gets their share of all businesses and China is now a corporate heaven.

China took after Russia. Putin used oil-based economy to feed the people, make them wealthy and shut them up about democracy.

Russia and China are both Totalitarian Capitalist Regimes. These types of regimes will not last long ruling the global economy, simply because they are based on exploitation of their own labors and masses.

IRI wants to follow the examples of Russia and China: Capitalism without Democracy!

But, the problem is that Mullahs and Hezbollah do not even allow a share of the beef to reach the public! They want to slush all the beef in their personal pockets! This is why the IRI system does not even work, not even as workable as China and Russia! Mullahs and Hezbollah are too greedy to even share the wealth with the public!

“If everyone thinks Pacifism forever then nothing will get done and everyone carries on the vicious cycle in which more would suffer by the hands of the government”


This is why these friends are believers in a flawed ideology of Liberal Pacifist Reformism. They are willing to sacrifice Iran for the safety of their families, friends and safe keeping of peace in Iran. They are willing to sacrifice Iran for their philosophical large egos and flawed ideologies. They are avoiding to debate me because I am not some Hassan and Hussein for them to easily butter their ways around me and skip the logical process of argumentation and flaws of their ideologies! Reza Pahlavi still uses the analogy of South Africa for IRI and assumes Civil Disobedient would do the job! This is like comparing Switzerland with Nazi Germany!

“I agree it must, but like you I believe under the IRI it should not have Nuclear power and rather than Iranians protesting for the IRI's rights for Nuclear Power, they ought to use their heads and think why they are not allowed.”


Enerzhi-ye Hastei Haq-e Mosalam-e Mast!

Bull Shiite! You have no rights to Atomic Energy unless you prove to the civilized world that you are also a civilized regime!

First prove your civility, then you can have all the atomic energy, nukes, bombs, missiles and torpedoes that you desire.

Just because we disagree with Hezbollah, many assume that we are Anti Nuclear Power for Iran! On the contrary, we love to see a nuclear Iran. We must have nukes to use it as a bargaining chip to become relevant in the global politics, but nukes in the hands of Mullahs only means prolonging IRI’s life!

We can’t get rid of IRI as is. Now imagine an IRI with the nukes!

Ignorant people seem to confuse Iran’s atomic rights with IRI’s atomic rights. IRI has no rights to the nukes. The only right that IRI has is the right to a quick death. I have no problem with mass execution and elimination of half a million Mullahs, Hezbollah, Basij, Maktabi and Fundamentalists, only to make an example and set the records straight for the rest of the Hard Core Muslims to not get any more ideas of theocracy in Iran. Kill tham all and let Allah sort them out (Liberals are now reading this, calling me mental and bleed their hearts out!).

Sometimes Death is better than Life. Some Animals (Hezbollah) serve no purpose alive. Well, unless we send them all to the camps for free labor, digging irrigation canals from Caspian Sea to Central Deserts (Camran’s Idea). I am 100% pro putting these good Muslim in to good use in the Concentration Camps of the future “3rd Pars” (Bleed Liberals bleed……)!!!!!!!

“Finally someone who shares my belief. “


You know, political correctness teaches us that everyone has rights to live, preach and take action. I say: How about their rights to death?

If the death of one person would make the other ten to live, then what’s wrong with that?
Mullahs have no rights to live!
Al Qaeda has rights to live!
Hezbollah has no rights to live!
Basij has no right to live!


Why don’t you good folks see me as a Good Doer who is trying to hook these people as quickly as possible to Allah! All I want to do is accelerate the process of reaching the good Muslims to their Allah! And isn’t this what they all want? To reach Allah? I am only trying to speed up the process! I am like a bus driver, taking half a mil or a million Hezbollah quickly to the Allah! They should give me some type of reward and trophy for this good deed! Allah bless my good soul!

“I have some questions for you”


Indeed ….

“1. How do you think Iranians could change the course of peoples Pacifism to Patriotism?”


Long Term (Strategically):
Transformation of Information and Education of Iranians (What you and I are doing right here).

Short Term (Tactically):
Mass Elimination of half a mil or a million Gav O Olaq (Mullahs, Hezbollah, Basij, Maktabi, Chadori, Lachaki, Pasdar, Zeynab Sisters and other Dayus). I don't consider these people Iranian or even human. These Muslim are cattle of Allah. We slaughter cattle for food by the millions, so why not Hezbollah? We can make organic fertilizer out of them and put them in good use to grow plants, but first let’s get them to build that canal by free labor. Wouldn’t that be awesome to see Mullahs actually work and labor for the first time in their lives!?

My words would sound very harsh, maniacal and politically incorrect for the good liberal pacifist people of the world, but then again:

a) Liberal Pacifism is a mental illness. Islamism is now so powerful because of Liberals!
b) Do I sound inhuman and WARmonger? Well too bad! Complain to someone who gives a Rat’s Ass!
c) I have one term for yous: Survival of Species (Darwin): Hezbollah must die so Persians will live!

“2. If Iran was to one day be the Democratic state that we all dream, would you believe parties with backward ideologies to not be allowed to run for government (i.e. Mujahedin, Tudeh, Religious Groups (being advisable but not en-forceful)?”


All parties can run for government. I will give my life to defend their rights to free speech and assembly. But ……..

Same as Turkey, (Kemal Ataturk created a duty for the military to protect secularism in Turkey.) we must put in the constitution that military must intervene and overthrow elections and governments (Same as Algeria in the 80s), if theocracy is about to end secularism. In Turkey, military did not do this in 2 separate occasions because they are secular people but they done it because it is in the constitution and it is their duty to protect the constitution of Turkey!

How ironic that we call Turks “Khars” (Donkeys), but the reality is that we are 100 times more Olaq, stupid and idiotic than Turks! The Turks are ions ahead of us when it comes to secularity. We do not even know the meaning of Secularism! We see nothing wrong with Theocracy in a mild form (Monarchy) or harsh form (IRI)! Now tell me who is the donkey?

“3. Do you see change occurring any time soon?”


Only if America invades Iran or I will become in charge to take care of a couple million good Muslims in Iran to make a nationwide example (Reza Khani Style), if you know what I mean jelly bean?!

In the long run, change will come. That is what you and I and X and Y are doing in IPC. We are message bearers of the Change! We are the Future ……


Aryan, do you know what I like about you?

For years and years you have been reading IPC in silence, studying books, studying my books, studying various scholars’ books, educating yourself, evolving yourself but all and all in silence. Now you have surfaced (like a Persian Beast from the Depth)! You are beginning to write, discuss issues, post in the club, educate the youth and are in the process of writing in depth articles and books. You kept your mouth shut until now that you have become wise enough to speak. Even now, you are absorbing information from me, IPC, around the net and books, like a sponge. The point is that you barely spoke and did not give yourself the right to speak until you educated yourself to the point that now you can open your mouth and have something worthy to say, discuss, teach and learn in the club!

Most of our people are opposite of you! The first thing they do when they set foot in this club is to open their trap and make some asinine, half-wit, illiterate remark! They read one post from a huge topic of a huge website and they assume that they know who I am, who we are and what we are all about! So they give themselves the right to barf some garbage. They are the ones who end up embarrassing themselves and stick their feet in their mouths! They make an ass of themselves in the public and on the most read Iranian political site on the net (IPC). When one makes an ass of himself in public, then public will not forget that quickly about this act! I do not even have to tell you this, because you have been reading what has been going on in here for years. You are perfectly aware of what I am talking about.

You made my wish for Iranians to come true:

Think First, Speak Second!

More power to you Young Grasshopper.
People tell me there is no hope.
I take one look at you and likes of you and say:

Yes There is Hope!

“Thank you”


You welcome Young Grasshopper (Kung Fu Style)!

[Do you even know that old TV series “Kung Fu” with David Carradine (my remark above)? If you don’t, then go see some of it on DVD or read about it on the net and see what I mean!]

Amen!

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Postby yaninikolai » Wed Aug 20, 2008 2:53 pm

Hiya Ahreeman,

What Does Democracy Mean to Different Iranians?

Democracy to some youth is western chaos and corruption. They love to have it.

Democracy to Maktabi Traditionalists are exactly the above and that’s why they avoid westoxication interpreted as democracy!

But my favorite are Fundamentalist Muslims. At least they are honest with themselves and the world. They say:

“We hate democracy. Islam disagrees with democracy. Islam is not religion of peace. Islam is religion of Jihad.”


The problem with many young Iranians as well is that they lack interest in the true Democracy, many unfortunetly listen to the garbage reiterated by the regimes Reformists that call for the "Islamic Democracy" that will give them SOME liberties just to keep them happy and get their minds off politics, the problem is many of these youths are dillusional and don't even know that their lifestyles are anything but Democracy. The sad thing is many young Iranians although want change also do not wish to change the regime indefinitly (i.e. Stockholm Syndrome), these people need to be heavily educated or forced into our way of thinking otherwise down the generations either people would care less about change or simply fight against it. If a war is to occur on Iran the new free and secular Democracy should not tolerate the practicing opinions of Iranians calling for a reestablishment of an Islamic state, these people should not be treated any differently to the Mullahs. If these people are violating the way of Free Democracy; then they themselves are not part of the Democratic system and at that point we should be sticking up two fingers to the Amnesty International. Shah's mistake was he did not massacre the Islamist uprisers when he had the chance, thats why we should not make that same mistake.


People’s Republic of Communist China

China is not a people’s republic because it exploits her own people!
China is not Communist because it is the 3rd largest capitalist economy in the world!
China is not even a republic because people do not elect the president!


Something I have always said about China myself, it goes to show how certain backward ideologies do not work, obviously in a much different way to Iran. I'm not a big fan of the Chinese "People Republic" government but even regarding all their flaws and all their faults they are a lot less Sinister than the IRI and hell of a lot more progressive. Marxism is a dead and impractical ideology but Islamism is dangerous and completely backwards.


This is why these friends are believers in a flawed ideology of Liberal Pacifist Reformism. They are willing to sacrifice Iran for the safety of their families, friends and safe keeping of peace in Iran. They are willing to sacrifice Iran for their philosophical large egos and flawed ideologies. They are avoiding to debate me because I am not some Hassan and Hussein for them to easily butter their ways around me and skip the logical process of argumentation and flaws of their ideologies! Reza Pahlavi still uses the analogy of South Africa for IRI and assumes Civil Disobedient would do the job! This is like comparing Switzerland with Nazi Germany!


Exactly, why beat around the bush. Bloodshed equals once, over and done with, no major worries about the future, no impractical stategies, less competition with the opposition, need I go on.



Ignorant people seem to confuse Iran’s atomic rights with IRI’s atomic rights. IRI has no rights to the nukes. The only right that IRI has is the right to a quick death. I have no problem with mass execution and elimination of half a million Mullahs, Hezbollah, Basij, Maktabi and Fundamentalists, only to make an example and set the records straight for the rest of the Hard Core Muslims to not get any more ideas of theocracy in Iran. Kill tham all and let Allah sort them out (Liberals are now reading this, calling me mental and bleed their hearts out!).

Sometimes Death is better than Life. Some Animals (Hezbollah) serve no purpose alive. Well, unless we send them all to the camps for free labor, digging irrigation canals from Caspian Sea to Central Deserts (Camran’s Idea). I am 100% pro putting these good Muslim in to good use in the Concentration Camps of the future “3rd Pars” (Bleed Liberals bleed……)!!!!!!!


I'm glad you brought this up. The Mullahs are not human and do not derserve "Human-Rights". I am not against Human-Rights but I am against it for the worng people. Even the USA and China execute those deemed to have commited atrocities, how is this any different. If Iran is to be free one day we should have no reluctants towards execution of the Mullahs and officials of the Islamic Republic, if the Amnesty have a problem with that, show them where their pre-IRI statistics got us and the amount of deaths the Islamic government caused. The Islamists are dangerous and have to be dealt with by any means neccessary (I am not sure whether you might agree with me on this) but the problem lies again with Pacifist Iranains who will jump from one boat to another and fight for the Islamist's Human-Rights. If a person is dangerous and you know he is going to blow up a building you do not keep it to yourself because he hasn't caused any harm yet. Islamists are dangeorus full stop and calling for an Islamic State is calling for the death of Iran and its non-conforming subjects; this is called TREASON!

With regards to your answer, they were exactly the kind of answers I was looking for but one question.

As I have brought Human-Rights into this topic may I ask what is your full opinion on the matter. What is your opinion on the differences of Human-Rights to those Iranain students in IRI and those who are Islamists?

Aryan, do you know what I like about you?
:and your answer:


Thank you Ahreeman, I continue to try and not just make your dream come true but that of every red blooded die hard, patriotic, nationalist and Secularist Iranian within the worldwide Iranian community.

By the way, I have heard of "Kung Fu' the TV series.

Thank you Master

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Postby Ahreeman X » Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:25 pm

Aryan:

“Shah's mistake was he did not massacre the Islamist uprisers when he had the chance, thats why we should not make that same mistake. “


Shah made a mistake because he was a weak man and we have been paying for it for 30 years (so far)! How can a true Nationalist ever forgive Shah? Let’s imagine that we forgive all of his so many mistakes:

Was Shah Really to Blame?
http://iranpoliticsclub.net/club/viewtopic.php?t=1433

But how on Earth can we forgive this mistake which had cost us our nation? It was on Shah’s watch that Iran was handed to Islam! Simple as that. When I hear monarchists defend Shah and try to white wash this crime and cowardly weakness, I just want to rip their asses apart! It is basically useless to argue with Monarchists because they are illogical and impractical people who still have their eyes closed to the history of what really had happened to Iran!

Monarchy is a syphilis, which eventually gave birth to its Canker Soar named Islamic Republic!

“Marxism is a dead and impractical ideology but Islamism is dangerous and completely backwards.”


This is why now I think that 28 Mordad was a tragedy! We were better off under Jebhe Meli and eventually Tudeh Communist Party than the Islamists! If 28 Mordad Coup would have not occur, then surely Mosadeq’s regime would fall under Communists and Iran would go under Tudeh Communists and become a Russian Satellite. Still, we would be better off because our people would be educated and progressive, so on 1978 they would had not commit an Islamic Revolution!

Communism is far better than Islam. Death is even better than Islam!

“this is called TREASON!”


Yes, Liberal Pacifist Reformists are directly (Hezbollah Reformists) or indirectly (Opposition Reformists) committing Treason. Let us not be shy and be frank here:

Peace Movements = Treason = Poison for Iran

Isn’t this so bizarre that in our today’s politically correct sub culture, “Peace” and “Pacifism” are good. To tolerate a Bloodthirsty Regime of IRI by all means possible is good, but War against Tyranny is bad?! To free our country via War is bad?! To be War-monger is bad?!

Well, I am a bloody proud WAR-monger and I am damn proud of it.

Islamism is a disease but Liberal Pacifism is the cause of this disease! Roots of the problem are the Liberal Pacifists who bend over backwards to serve the Islamists!

Liberalism is a Mental Disorder, which will destroy the Western World unless we do something about it. Mark my words, will you?

“one question.

As I have brought Human-Rights into this topic may I ask what is your full opinion on the matter. What is your opinion on the differences of Human-Rights to those Iranain students in IRI and those who are Islamists? “


To kill a member of student movement who fights for democracy is stepping on human rights.

To kill an animal for consumption is stepping on animals rights.

To kill a Hezbollah is serving the human rights, because the more Islamists you kill, the more oxygen for the rest of us and the less CO2 pollution for the rest of us. So it is a great service for humanity and human rights to kill as many Hezbollah as possible! This is why I consider myself a Humanitarian (Bleed Liberals Bleed….)! However, I still prefer the Concentration Camps to use them as slave labor as long as there are life in their bodies (Camran’s program), before we send them to Allah. Think about all the good the Hezbollah free labor can do for Iran? We can turn the Kavir and Lut central deserts to fertile lands via canals irrigating from Caspian Sea shores! Even after expiration, we don’t bury them but use them as human fertilizers (the best) to grow plants! Why not? The Hezbollah has less human value than cattle. They are commodities.

The only good Islamist is a Dead Islamist!

Well except the Sisters of Zeynab Chadoris, which we can allow them to do what they are already doing in Iran! We create new Whorehouses in downtown areas of the large cities and get the good Muslimettes to service the Persian troops and Immortals Anally, Orally, Intercourse and every other imaginative way possible! They can wear their hejabs while doing the nasty! We will do the same thing to these good Muslimettes that their ancestors had done to us during the first AIOG (Arabo Islamic Occupational Government of 651 AD), raping and slaving our mothers and sisters and shipping them back to Mecca!

Extreme Violence is the answer to all global problems.

When the thug (Islamist) realizes that if he blows up Twin Towers, he will be hung upside down by the balls (by Ahreeman) rather than to be presented in the court of law (by liberal lawyers), then I bet with you that he will think twice before blowing up the Twin Towers!

Yes my friend, our world’s problem is not Islamism, because Islamism is only an after effect and symptom which is caused by the virus of Liberal Pacifism and their Piss (Peace) Movements! The root of our problems are Liberalism!

I invited all of these Liberal Pacifists for debates but they know better not to take me on in a public forum! They know better than to face the Ahreemanic Sheer Logic and survive afterwards!


We are Victims of the Circumstances!

We are pushed with our backs to the wall by the Fundamentalists, and Stabbed on the back by the Reformists. We have no other choice but to fight for our survival! This is Survival of the Fittest and we dare to just lie down and die! As Persian Nationalists we are not allowed to die out unless we take along at least a few thousands of Islamists along with us to the Hell!

“Thank you Ahreeman, I continue to try and not just make your dream come true but that of every red blooded die hard, patriotic, nationalist and Secularist Iranian within the worldwide Iranian community. “


Amen Brother!

“By the way, I have heard of "Kung Fu' the TV series. “


Amen Young Grasshopper!
Just be patient, take your time, continue your progress and you will have it all. Sky is the limit! The “Persian Beast” has surfaced and his name is Aryan!

“Thank you Master”


Some call me the Renaissance man, some call me the Master, some call me …..

But I am only a preacher from a long line of preachers. I am only safe keeping and transferring the knowledge and our Persian Culture from my predecessors (Kasravi, Aryamanesh, etc.) to the future preachers (Aryan, etc.). One day you will take the lead and be the preacher. One day you will transfer the knowledge and our culture to the future preachers!

This is how we safe keep and transfer our greatest treasure, the Persian History and Culture. This is “The Persian Way”.


Cheers Young Grasshopper

Amen!

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Postby yaninikolai » Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:15 am

Hiya AX,


But how on Earth can we forgive this mistake which had cost us our nation? It was on Shah’s watch that Iran was handed to Islam! Simple as that. When I hear monarchists defend Shah and try to white wash this crime and cowardly weakness, I just want to rip their asses apart! It is basically useless to argue with Monarchists because they are illogical and impractical people who still have their eyes closed to the history of what really had happened to Iran!

Monarchy is a syphilis, which eventually gave birth to its Canker Soar named Islamic Republic!


Shah mistakes did contribute massively to the establishment of this awful regime and on one hand we cannot forgive him for that but on the other hand it wasn't his intention for this to happen but quite the opposite. Shah's mistakes did cost our country tremendous damage due to his religious values, his semi-pacifist values, his lack of educating people to be independent thinkers, his non-democratic values etc. With the latter I can understand him to an extent, to give no rights for people with different political ideologies to have say is one thing but to disallow Islamists having a say is another. Shah should have eradicated Islamists when he had the chance, when the revolution occurred he was waiting for the thumbs up FROM CARTER to give him the go ahead to kill the revolutionaries calling for "Islamic Republic", his mistake was he should have had the guts to do it himself. Although I do not agree with the Reds I believe they should have had a right to raise their voices had they not allied with the Blacks. Iranian people's selfish and uneducated way of thinking had bitten them back in the ass when they lost their chance to follow Shahpour Bakhtiar.



Well, I am a bloody proud WAR-monger and I am damn proud of it.

Islamism is a disease but Liberal Pacifism is the cause of this disease! Roots of the problem are the Liberal Pacifists who bend over backwards to serve the Islamists!


Make that two of us!



Liberalism is a Mental Disorder, which will destroy the Western World unless we do something about it. Mark my words, will you?


Of course Liberalism is a Mental Disorder, I've always considered myself as Secular Conservative (in the free Democratic sense) and have fought tooth and nail with Liberals and Leftists here in the UK. People seem to think that World Peace, Public Disorder and High Taxes on the rich would solve the worlds problems. Obviously I do not need to explain myself as I am sure you already know them pretty well.



The only good Islamist is a Dead Islamist!

Well except the Sisters of Zeynab Chadoris, which we can allow them to do what they are already doing in Iran! We create new Whorehouses in downtown areas of the large cities and get the good Muslimettes to service the Persian troops and Immortals Anally, Orally, Intercourse and every other imaginative way possible! They can wear their hejabs while doing the nasty! We will do the same thing to these good Muslimettes that their ancestors had done to us during the first AIOG (Arabo Islamic Occupational Government of 651 AD), raping and slaving our mothers and sisters and shipping them back to Mecca!

Extreme Violence is the answer to all global problems.


Exactly, To use them as whores that is fair enough but other than this they are useless and I believe even women who might actively fight for the IRI should be killed. I believe in equality of men and women so why should they be treated any differently.

Of course Extreme Violence is the answer, Peaceful movements have never succeeded in such a situation. The British Occupation of India is not the same issue, this was an issue of independence for India, NOTHING ELSE. Tyrannic Regimes like the IRI need to be taught they cannot return and have to be gotten rid of by violence alone, these kind of Regimes will never just hand over their rule to a completely different regime, a regime like the IRI need to be gotten rid of by violence because of who and what they are by letting them off easy we are allowing their agenda to breath.



Amen Young Grasshopper!
Just be patient, take your time, continue your progress and you will have it all. Sky is the limit! The “Persian Beast” has surfaced and his name is Aryan!


Believe me, my voice will go on forever I will never stop preaching of Iranian Nationalism and Anti-Islamism. If I ever become somewhat of a famous political figure I have to thank you for much of it.



But I am only a preacher from a long line of preachers. I am only safe keeping and transferring the knowledge and our Persian Culture from my predecessors (Kasravi, Aryamanesh, etc.) to the future preachers (Aryan, etc.). One day you will take the lead and be the preacher. One day you will transfer the knowledge and our culture to the future preachers!

This is how we safe keep and transfer our greatest treasure, the Persian History and Culture. This is “The Persian Way”.


And you will be up their with our Masters by the young successors such as myself. Like I said this dream of ours will NEVER die as long as I am alive.



Thank you Sensai :D


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Postby Ahreeman X » Sun Aug 24, 2008 12:50 pm

Khereft (Superstitious and Ignorant) Factor


IRI’s intended National Internet Wall’s project is to make Iranians more Khereft (Superstitious and Ignorant) than they already are!

You mentioned on how a great number of our people are willing to fall for the Reformists’ trap. I want to tell you a story and confirm your observations.

While back, Blondie (my main squeeze) went to Iran for a visit (after 30 years)! Picture Blondie, a high security Aerospace Engineer who builds both commercial planes and military fighter planes (Airforce and Navy) for USA, going to Iran for a visit after 30 years! Of course she went incognito or else they (IRI) would probably arrest her for treason or else force her to work for them to build fighters for Iran!

But the point is that Blondie is one of the most westernized Persian women that I have ever known! She has no knowledge of traditional, classical or street popular Persian terms. She does not listen to Persian music, mocks Persian culture, Iranian fanaticism, can’t stand Islam and Traditional Persian music. She is a typical independent, stubborn, mathematical genius feminist. She is so westernized that she does not even consider herself Iranian. She is considering herself American.

She came back from Iran after staying there for 3 weeks. She can’t stand Middle Eastern male chauvinism and mentality. I still remember her fiasco and fit in Morocco:

Planes, Trains, Buses and Ferries
X Diaries: North Africa - Chapter Two

http://iranpoliticsclub.net/founder/nor ... /index.htm

And I still need to write about the latest episodes we had in our latest trip (Turkey, Greece and Italy). In this trip she caused a commotion in a mosque in Turkey and I also had been thrown out of the mosque in Turkey! Soon I will write another chapter of X Diaries and I will tell yous all about the episodes!

So picture all the above to understand her mentality and then figure that she went back to Iran after 30 years! Does culture shock come to the mind?

How can someone like Blondie (Everything IRI hates in a woman) survives in Iran?

X: I would have loved to visit Iran, go around Iran and I would have talked about this trip for a month but not a single word about your trip I hear?!
B: What is there to tell?
X: Tell me all about it? You been there 3 weeks and you have nothing to say?!
B: You won’t even recognize the country and the people!
X: What do you mean?
B: People were backward, fanatic, dogmatic, superstitious and full of Shiite at Shah’s time, but now they are plain Khereft!
X: Khereft?
B: People have become extremely superstitious and ignorant, far more than the past. 30 years of IRI had made them plain “Khereft”!
X: Example?
B: I was there during Moharam. The whole country were awaiting Imam’s astrological orders! Every day for few days, people were awaiting for Imam (Khamenei) to astrologically figure (make sure the moon and sun and earth and my dad’s balls are in a specific position in conjunction with each other and …) the exact moment of Eid Fetr, so people would officially celebrate the end of Moharam. Every day people would arise to see if Imam had seen the moon in the proper position or else they had to continue Ruzeh (fast)! Our generation are flat stupid, younger generation are shallow. Older generation are more intelligent because they grew up during Shah’s time! People are flat Khereft!
X: What did you enjoy in Iran?
B: Food.
X: What did you dislike in Iran?
B: Everything else!
X: How about archeological sites?
B: Everything is destroyed due to lack of care and maintenance.
X: There are so many things to see. If I was you, I would take a trip around Iran and see everything.
B: See what? The country is a Shiite Hole! The people are stupid and freedoms are non existent!? These people want this regime and these people deserve this regime. The whole country is corrupt!
X: But so much to see….
B: I seen Esfahan, Tehran, Karaj, Caspian Sea Shores and that was enough!
X: You are so westoxicated.
B: And you still live in the 70s. The Iran you know is dead. You won’t survive there for a week. Either you get arrested or get killed arguing and fighting Pasdars and Police.
X: Where did you enjoy most?
B: I went to see my old house in Esfahan where I grew up and that was nostalgic and many memories.
X: Will you go back?
B: When Hell freezes over!
X: You are kidding right?
B: Well maybe I go back for food!

She has a point! 30 years of IRI brainwash had turned people to a bunch of Kherefts!

Example: Blondie’s mother (an old fashion, superstitious and uneducated Muslim woman) if far more progressive and intelligent than her sister (an Agriculture Engineer and a high-ranking official in the ministry of agriculture)! Her mother doesn’t wear hejab but her sister does! Her sister wears hejab at all times, and not only in IRI! She wears hejab not because of IRI, but because of Islam! She believes Imam Reza cured her skin condition and medical illness! She constantly pilgrims to Mecca, Mashhad, Qom and elsewhere! She reads namaz and quotes Quran!

At Shah’s time she was a leftist reading Kafka and Marxist magazines! Now she is a hardcore Muslim!

Everytime I see this woman we have an argument …

X: You live in “Alam-e Haparut” (Fantasy Land).
R: Why? Because I don’t agree with you?
X: No because you live in a virtual, irrational and illogical world made by Islam!
R: Different people, different beliefs!
X: But your belief Fragged up the world!
R: Don’t try to change people. ….
X: And let you remain irrational forever?
R: I’m not that fanatical. I’m not keen on IRI.
X: What do you mean you are not that fanatical? What do you mean you do not like IRI? You have been working for IRI for 30 years!
R: What do you want me to do? Starve?
X: Private sector.
R: It’s not practical.
X: You could work for private sector and stay clean.
R: I’m not crazy about Hezbollah. I dislike them.
X: You are Hezbollah! Just because you are a Reformist and pro Khatami, it doesn’t mean you are not Hezbollah! You worked for this regime for 30 years. You believe in your superstition not because of IRI but because you are a true believer in nonsense.
R: You can’t insult.
X: It’s not insult, it is true. Don’t worry if we (opposition) get back to Iran, I will spare your life. We will slaughter Hezbollah but I will have mercy on you. Afterall you are family.
R: Why is it so hard for you comprehend. I am Muslim and wear hejab not because of IRI ….
X: I know, you are wearing it due to natural personal ignorance (Khariyyat-e Zati)!
R: Religion is Khariyyat?
X: Your’s is!
R: Why are you insulting?
X: You wear a half ass scarf for Imam Reza, but your cleavage are showing and so are you legs! You don’t know jack about Islam and Quran. You never even read the complete Quran but every day you read Namaz and every year you go to shrines for pilgrimage! Your superstitious fanatical beliefs are legendary. Your mother is a progressive and modern woman in comparison to you! Bad Omen, Bad Eye, Good Luck, burning Esfand, breaking eggs, under the ladder, under the Quran, black cats, number 13, talisman, Jinn, other bull shiite! And you are the well-schooled high-ranking IRI official! If you are like this, then picture how ignorant the average Iranian must be!
R: This comes from a man called Ahreeman?
X: Better Ahreeman than Muslim!
R: This is not the country you grew up in….
X: I know. I could not stand the retardness back then at Shah’s time, so I can only imagine how retarded it must be today! Probably 10 times worst!
R: You don’t know your own culture….
X: You are an Arab, you are not even Iranian.
R: I am Iranian.
X: How can you be Iranian? Your ancestor is Zahra and you are Seyed-e of Hassani and Husseini?
R: (…….silence………ponder ponder ponder on what to say?)

Of course conversations like this always ends up in an argument and a fight.

My point is that today’s Iran is not recognizable to someone who has not been there for 30 years. Today’s Iranians are by majority Khereft.

People are looking at the student movement, young intellectuals and professionals and then assume that Iranians are all Anti IRI, Anti Islam and pro western democracy! This is heavily flawed!

Majority of Iranians maybe against this cabinet but not the regime! They are Muslim and pro reforms, or else the IRI would have been collapsed 30 years ago! Minority of Iranians are pro this cabinet and this regime. These people are pro this regime or else it would have not been in power for 30 years.

No matter how superficial and shallow of Muslims, yet still Iranians are Muslim. They can’t comprehend democracy and they see nothing wrong with theocracy. They believe the problem are Fundamentalists and if they go, then a reformist regime can make the life pleasant in Iran.

Iranians are highly schooled and university graduates, but then again, are they truly educated?

Iranian university degrees are all Islamized and achieved via Brain Washed information!

The young generation are superficial, somewhat religious and shallow.
Middle Age generation are brainwashed Muslim.
Older generation are brighter than both the above (how sad is that?)!
And everybody in Iran is a Conspiracy Theorist!
Let me put it in formula:

Stockholm Syndrome + Conspiracy Theory = Iranian Psyche

Every generation that passes by, they become more stupid, ignorant, religious, superstitious and Khereft.

Again, do not look at the few student movement protests and young intellectuals and then assume that Iranians are bright! No, Iranians are extremely "Khereft”!

Iranians are getting more khereft by the day because IRI is now blocking the Internet, building a national wall around Iran to block the flow of information and keep people stupid, religious and khereft (Good Muslims)!

So go figure …….

This is why people are satisfied with reforms than revolution and complete change of all fundamentals.

Our work is cut out for us and our work is extremely hard. We can’t even rely on the Iranians in exile because as soon as an Iranian sets foot outside Iran, they become Westernized and they do not give a rat’s ass about Iran and Iranians inside!

We got Westoxication in exile and Arabization in inxile. Against all odds the Persian Nationalists are fighting to save the Iranian culture.

We are rare species!
More power to us!

Amen!

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Postby yaninikolai » Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:30 pm

Hiya Ahreeman,

I'm so sorry this has taken me over a week to reply back to you. I've just gotten married and life couldn't be more frantic, we've had Persian and Nepalese style weddings (wife from Nepal) and I'm finally getting a chance to come on the Internet.

What your "friend" says is indeed correct, Iran is a completely different country. As you said also 30 years of being under this regime will cause stockholm syndrome, the other point you made was about the 'Conspiracy Theorists' this I believe is a product of the state media which only gives its one sided Bigoted Islamist point of view, although many people are not Islamists or pro-IRI they can still be cheated into believing their stories because thats the only media source they have been subjected to. For example I have an uncle who used to work for the monarchy's government and will never believe or accept a single story that the IRI news channels broadcasts today, however I also have a Step grand-mother (a backward religious woman, nothing like my real grandmother or grandfather) who claims she hates the IRI but in front of me blatantly cried her eyes out when watching the news of "Palestinian children getting killed by Israeli forces". I had to intervene to this "emotional" moment and explain that this ridiculous information she is so deeply indulged in was in fact absolute garbage and Islamist propaganda, I understand there are SOME Palestinian children who die but there is a hell of a lot more behind the story than just Israeli's killing random Palestinians, besides history has proven that the Arab Palestinians themselves are the decedents of barbaric crusaders who adopted Palestine as there homeland, so who has the right to say Jews cannot live their. Well me saying this ended up with an accusation that I have been brainwashed by Zionism and then it so happened my step-uncle was saying to his mother, "I can't believe he believes what he says" he started laughing and then continued "he actually believes this", this is the same naive MAN who signed his life away to a fanatic dahati woman who ended up conning him out of 600 pieces of gold (as her dowry) to get her parents a better house.


The young generation are superficial, somewhat religious and shallow.


Amen to this, Iranians have become very shallow. Partly because they are not interested in learning anything that they think they already know but also their religious agenda binds them firmly to not think too much outside Islam, obviously through the black market and families whom live abroad they get a taste of a Western lifestyles, however intervention from the government's reformist puppets used this as an advantage to keep the IRI government breathing in the long run. Even old conservative mullahs such as Rafsanjani became popular with the youth during the last presidential election because he was considered a "moderate", this is disgraceful to even consider supporting these human towel racks, a few privileges and suddenly the youth go mad for them, this is NOT an interest in politics, this is sure fire proof that Iranians couldn't care less about politics because people who care would know that some liberties do not make you liberated.


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From the BBC, these women almost resemble Saudi's, now thats progression


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Is this really our future, wanna be "liberated women" still supporting Mullahs into power.


MY ARMS ARE OPEN TO THE USA! Please come and attack us!

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Postby Ahreeman X » Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:27 am

Aryan:

Pardon me, the same as you, I have been running around and busy with GOP Convention, IPC Business and personal life. We must get the GOP elected or any prospect of US confrontation with IRI will be destroyed. Democrats will not only destroy America but they will also destroy the future of Iran. Liberalism provides breathing grounds for Islamism. Carter gave birth to Khomeini and I assure you that Obama will guarantee the IRI to grow bigger and stronger!

Every single IRI Lobbyist, Hezbollah and Pro IRI Iranian votes Democratic. Neutral Iranians should ask themselves why? Liberalism is a politically correct mental illness!

Congratulation, you do sudden things, going to Africa, getting married, etc. You are too young to get married but then again at this day and age, better to get married than to run around and get AIDS, Herpes, and ….

You went to Iran I believe in 2 separate occasions so you of all people understand that today’s Iran is absolutely a different a country than the Imperial Iran. Unfortunately many exiled Iranian youth, particularly monarchists do not comprehend this fact; therefore, they make cockamamie assessments about the present situation. They have no clue about the realities of today Iran or else they would not bring forward the remedy of monarchy and Reza Pahlavi for Iran! They live in LaLa Land and a fantasy which ended 30 years ago.

They are out of touch with today. How can one provide a cure when he does not even know the disease?

As we mentioned before,

Reformists have a flawed perception of what is presently happening to them in Iran! Rather than breaking the chain as a whole, they prefer to break only a link or two to create breathing room! Less do they know that breaking the chain as a whole would set them free permanently. They simply refuse the reality that Islam is the problem, not IRI or Fundamentalists!

Monarchists on the other hand are people who live in fantasy of the past with no prospect of reality! The same as Islamists, they would like to go back in time rather than move forward. This is not Change but this is Reaction!

As you said:

At this point and at this hopeless situation, one must be glad if USA liberates Iran and invades Iran. Our people are not lifting a finger to free themselves. Morely they create 1001 Piss (Peace) Movements, IRI Lobby Groups, Liberal Pacifist Groups and other Bull Shiite groups to stop war! Imagine if all this effort would have been put in to a revolution, then IRI would not be here for 30 + years and ongoing …..!

Political Iranians inside by majority welcome a US Invasion Liberation.
Political Iranians by majority outside want peace wither due to cowardice, political correctness, avoiding harm to their families inside, lack of courage or common ignorance of not comprehending that:

Peace = No War = IRI Forever

It is a deadlocked situation and we are condemned as War Mongers rather than be appreciated as Freedom Fighters and True Nationalists who want to liberate their homeland from bloody Islam!

Iranians don’t want to lift a finger to free Iran and are reluctant for America to do it for them!
This is why yesterday’s Persians have been degenerated and turned to the present Iranians.

This is called a Cultural Bankruptcy.

Once we ruled the world and now we are in a Shiite Hole called Islamic Republic of Iran.

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Postby yaninikolai » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:37 pm

Hi Ahreeman,


Pardon me, the same as you, I have been running around and busy with GOP Convention, IPC Business and personal life. We must get the GOP elected or any prospect of US confrontation with IRI will be destroyed. Democrats will not only destroy America but they will also destroy the future of Iran. Liberalism provides breathing grounds for Islamism. Carter gave birth to Khomeini and I assure you that Obama will guarantee the IRI to grow bigger and stronger!


At least you are doing something constructive about the situation in Iran through American Foreign policy. I am a fan of the American GOP, our equivalent here is the 'Conservative Party', however unlike the USA all our political parties here submit to the majority of the UK population just so they come into power. In other words there is no difference in the UK what party you vote for.



Congratulation, you do sudden things, going to Africa, getting married, etc. You are too young to get married but then again at this day and age, better to get married than to run around and get AIDS, Herpes, and ….

A lot of people have told me that but I've never really been interested in going out and playing the field, I suppose did when I began Uni but then I met my wife half way through and the past just stayed in the past. Like you said first Africa,then Marriage and hopefully next revolutionary ;)




You went to Iran I believe in 2 separate occasions so you of all people understand that today’s Iran is absolutely a different a country than the Imperial Iran. Unfortunately many exiled Iranian youth, particularly monarchists do not comprehend this fact; therefore, they make cockamamie assessments about the present situation. They have no clue about the realities of today Iran or else they would not bring forward the remedy of monarchy and Reza Pahlavi for Iran! They live in LaLa Land and a fantasy which ended 30 years ago.


Its evident how much of different country it is just by looking at some members of my own family. Like I said before my anti-IRI uncle debated with me because he believes the west has brainwashed me about the Israel-Palestine issue, this guy barely knows how to use the internet (asked me how to use, therefore no broad knowledge outside IRI propaganda) and then argues with me that the news I hear is false. The man actually said to my grandfather, "he actually believes what he says" and he then laughed. My Uncle is only a few years older than myself but growing up with the Islamic Republic he grew to believe some of their nonsense even though he so passionately is against them. You would think someone who is repulsed by a regime would not buy into their bullshit no matter how long they have grown up hearing their garbage. This goes to show some peoples ignorance at not putting two and two together, i.e. somehow my uncle doesn't seem to see that the media is FULLY corrupted by the regime.



Reformists have a flawed perception of what is presently happening to them in Iran! Rather than breaking the chain as a whole, they prefer to break only a link or two to create breathing room! Less do they know that breaking the chain as a whole would set them free permanently. They simply refuse the reality that Islam is the problem, not IRI or Fundamentalists!



Sadly though Ahreeman, the majority of Pacifists would side with them just because "it won't cause lives and is a peaceful way of handling Iran's situation", I say "screw that!" They sell Iran for every bit integrity that it had, they are happy to establish the most futile and backwards system in Iran at the cost of true "freedom" and Nationalism, they say they care about their country and thats why they reject war, however it just shows how self centered they really are. To them Iran means nothing more than soil, they put the full liberation of its people behind their fascism, they don't care (or even realize due to ignorance) that the future of Iran will have to continue to suffer with the regime and they like their parents will grow up doing the same and the vicious cycle continues. If they want to call me a War Monger for my ideology then consider me a proud War Monger.



Iranians don’t want to lift a finger to free Iran and are reluctant for America to do it for them!
This is why yesterday’s Persians have been degenerated and turned to the present Iranians.


Exactly! they want freedom but they want it handed to them and they refuse to allow the possibility of bloodshed for the sake of full prosperity. They are either unrealistic fantasists or just pure ignorant.



Once we ruled the world and now we are in a Shiite Hole called Islamic Republic of Iran.


True. You know though AX (bit off topic) I have seen so many times where Iranians praise their ancient history (even though majority know very little about it) and yet praise the fact that they are Shiite Muslims and that Iran is a "Muslim Country". These guys are not necessarily Islamists but lack any knowledge of Islam or Iran for that matter yet have an opinion on both. They wear the faravar on their necks but when someone asks them what religion they are; they say "we are Shiite Muslims'. YOU CANNOT BE A PROUD IRANIAN BY PRAISING YOUR HISTORY AND PRAISING ISLAM AT THE SAME TIME, the two cannot be added up together. If our Ancient Kings had their say today they would be fuming from their ears. These kind of people who say they are "Proud Persians" are by no means representative of anything our leaders in ancient history fought for.


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Postby Ahreeman X » Mon Sep 15, 2008 5:49 pm

Aryan:

“Dear Young :specialop: Grasshopper ….

Always expect the unexpected; the enemy could be right behind you or next to you posing as a friend!”
:martist:
(Shidoshi Ahreeman)

“At least you are doing something constructive about the situation in Iran through American Foreign policy. I am a fan of the American GOP,”


There is no other choice but GOP :elephant: !

Obama :africanzulu: rhymes with Osama :obl: and Ahmad Aqa :hizboansar: (Ahmadinejad)!

“ our equivalent here is the 'Conservative Party', however unlike the USA all our political parties here submit to the majority of the UK population just so they come into power. In other words there is no difference in the UK what party you vote for.”


Now isn’t that a shame? [-(

“Like you said first Africa,then Marriage and hopefully next revolutionary ;)”


You are already a Revolutionary. Revolution starts from the within! :thumbsup:

“This goes to show some peoples ignorance at not putting two and two together, i.e. somehow my uncle doesn't seem to see that the media is FULLY corrupted by the regime.”


Haji, if Iranians had any sense, then we would not be where we are today!

“Sadly though Ahreeman, the majority of Pacifists would side with them just because "it won't cause lives and is a peaceful way of handling Iran's situation"


Pacifism :hippygirl: rhymes with Reformism :Mullah: and Cowardism :paranoid: !

“If they want to call me a War Monger for my ideology then consider me a proud War Monger.”


That’s my boy!

WAR is good
WAR builds character
WAR cleans up corruption
WAR results in revolution
WAR causes Change
WAR brings Democracy
WAR ends in ever lasting Peace
WAR is noble
WAR brings physical and mental health
WAR is good!

:tank:

“True. You know though AX (bit off topic) I have seen so many times where Iranians praise their ancient history (even though majority know very little about it) and yet praise the fact that they are Shiite Muslims and that Iran is a "Muslim Country". These guys are not necessarily Islamists but lack any knowledge of Islam or Iran for that matter yet have an opinion on both.”


Iranians, the more ignorant, the more opinionated they are! These are the same people who assume Iranians on 651 AD welcomed Islam to Iran!

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“They wear the faravar on their necks but when someone asks them what religion they are; they say "we are Shiite Muslims'. YOU CANNOT BE A PROUD IRANIAN BY PRAISING YOUR HISTORY AND PRAISING ISLAM AT THE SAME TIME, the two cannot be added up together.”


It is same as wearing a Star of David on your neck and a Swastika arm band on your arm!

“If our Ancient Kings had their say today they would be fuming from their ears. These kind of people who say they are "Proud Persians" are by no means representative of anything our leaders in ancient history fought for.”


Shahanshahs are shaking in their graves! This is a spit in Cyrus’s face! :ripcall:

Don’t blame them thus they are ignorant to their history, culture and roots. It is your job and my job to enlighten them. What we do here is a holy work. This is the most important work that we are doing right here.

Battle is tough but we are Men O WAR!
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Amen!

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