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Postby Jaff Sassani » Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:30 am

The American and the Aryan (Iranian) dialog on the Turkish website in Turkey
Dear Aryan people please comment on this conversation between our Jaff organization and two
People seem to be the USA citizen or Europeans.
http://www.newsturkish.com/discboard/vi ... .php?t=366


Jaff Sassani



Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Posts: 24 Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:39 pm Post subject: Barzani and Talabani during the President Obama
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Barzani and Talabani after the election of the President
Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden

The Kurdish people hopes that the new President of the USA
Will have some humanity to protect them from the evil and hateful Kurdistan mafia leaders (masud Barzani and Jalal Talabani) and the regional power too.

The Kurdish people was liberated by the American forces in
Iraq. The Kurds started to be happy dancing for the liberation
From modern zuhak (Saddam Hussein). Zuhak was a ruler in
Kurdistan history who abused the Kurds like Saddam Hussein Government and the Kurdish and Iranian people was
liberated by Blacksmith Kawah from Zuhak.

The Kurdish people compared President Bush to Kawah for a while then they found themselves to be ruled by two Kurdish
Family much brutal than Zuhak and Saddam Hussein.

The policy of the Bush administration in Iraq is “you support
Me and my effort in Iraq” will let you to do whatever you wish
To do in Iraq and Iraqi people. This is the perception of Iraqi
People and Kurdish people specially.

The Barzani family and Talabani family found out the hole
in the policy of the administration and they loved what was
available to them. They took dollars by billions and build
secret service in Kurdistan region to kill anyone who dears
to say anything about Barzani and Talabani corruption in the
region.

The US Government morally and humanly should be
Responsible for the well being of Iraqi people specially the Kurdish people whom loved America and American people.
The administration did not cared about the plight of the Iraqi
People at all. The Iraqi found the American to be cold
blooded people that is the perceptions of the Middle Eastern
people about America. So many dictators in the region are
supported by the America made the Kurds to understand
this is normal American policy for the people in the region.

For last few years Barzani and Talabnai become Saddam
Hussein for the Kurds. The Kurds begged American to help
But their plight dropped on the duff ears. They pureed in
money on Barzani and Talabani family so they can suppress
the population in front of the American officials. While
the Kurdish people never fought American forces like the
Arab counterpart in Iraq. So what is the difference if you love
American or hate American both are treated equally !!!

Now the Kurds hope that the new administration will help
them to be liberated from mafia family of Barzani and
Talabani and be protect by the USA forces or UN forces in the region.

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Yank



Joined: 21 Aug 2008
Posts: 20
Location: United States Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 3:22 pm Post subject:
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Cold blooded? Our soldiers are there, how exactly should they be? Should they get on their unicorns and throw flowers in the streets? Americans are far from Cold Blooded. Here is an idea, how about the Kurds stop waiting for someone else to take care of them and give them something? Either fight (and not cry when you lose) for what you want OR assimilate to the country you are in (best idea). Did you really think we would invade Iraq and help the Kurds form their own country? How about you just be thankful you are not having chemical/biological weapons used on you anymore? If you think Obama is the answer to all you dreams, you are as naive as my own countrymen who expect him to be their savior.

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Jaff Sassani



Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Posts: 24 Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 8:37 pm Post subject:
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We agree with you that Kurds should fight for their own right not depending on the handout and help from other nations. The Kurds are an Aryan (Iranian) if they wake up to join other Aryan (Iranian) people to liberate Iran from Islamic terrorist and then built the Aryan (Iranian) Economic Union (AU) similar to the Europeans Economic Union (EU) then they will have respect in the region and around the world.
The USA was the occupier of Iraq (the ruler of Iraq since 2003) why they built up Barzani and Talabani forces to abuse the Kurdish population. Please answer the question what kind of humanity is that. The US forces are responsible for the well being of Iraqi people including the Kurdish people while they are there. So what you are saying about that.

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Yank



Joined: 21 Aug 2008
Posts: 20
Location: United States Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:21 pm Post subject:
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The US did no such thing, the Kurdish people are soley to blame for who they allign themselves with.

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EricD



Joined: 06 Nov 2008
Posts: 14 Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:35 pm Post subject:
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Responsible for the well being of Iraqi people specially the Kurdish people whom loved America and American people.


Why "specially the Kurdish people"? What's so special about the "Kurdish people"?

I find this very selfish.

You say "whom loved America and American people" but then you call the Americans "cold blooded" and you expect to be treated as "special"?

Even though the USA and the UK lied about the "WMD" they did get rid of Saddam but that doesn't seem to be enough for you Kurds, you want America to cut Iraq and Turkey to pieces so that you can have your own country because you are "special".

Selfish, very selfish.

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Jaff Sassani



Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Posts: 24 Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 2:07 am Post subject:
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We said “The Iraqi found the American to be cold blooded people that are the perceptions
of the Middle Eastern people about America.”

That is the perceptions of the Middle Eastern people about America.
We are not asking for special treatment just for an argument. We joined American forces
But the Arab Sunii fought the American forces to the end. They killed many Americans but
The administration forgot about their mischief.

The Shitte Government is allied with Iran. They killed many Americans too.

So why we are selfish if we ask for protection from internal enemy of Kurdish people
and the regional power? You know very well when American forces get out of Iraq
Barzani and Talabani won’t lose anything. They will go to palaces in Europe and
America with billions of Dollars but the poor Kurdish people will pay with their
Blood for your friendship.

The Kurdish people loved American people not because they are fool. The Kurd always
pay back thousand fold when you give them a favors that is why they loved America and American people.

We never asked you to take apart the Middle East for us.

We believe that America as supper power could help the Aryan (Iranian) economic
Union (AU) with Turkish people to be part of the Union if they wish to join us just like
what America did with the Europeans Economic Union (EU) during cold war.

We ask the American Government and the American people why double stand? What is
the difference between our people and the people in Europe ? Why your country does
not have any meaningful project for our people ?

We are the Aryan (Iranian) people asking the American Government and the American
People to help us liberate our land from the Islamic terrorist. Where is your help?

We are going to pay back every dollar you spend for our liberation from the Islamic
Republic of Iran and people like Barzani and Talabani.

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Yank



Joined: 21 Aug 2008
Posts: 20
Location: United States Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:09 pm Post subject:
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We are damned if we do, and damned if we don't. As a nation, our leaders are required to do only what is in OUR nations best interest. We are not the world’s savior. Who we choose to help or align ourselves with is most often due to what is in our best interest. I know you hate us for that but let me ask you...how are we different than any other country? Turkey is a major strategic ally to the US; do you really think we could afford to jeopardize our relationship for the Kurdish people? What would we get in return? What would we lose?

The Europeans are the forefathers of our nation so there are unique facets to our relationship. The majority of Americans have roots from England, France, Ireland, Italy, Germany, Poland,etc.

To answer your question specifically though, the reason I think we would not try to get behind an "Islamic Union" or an alliance similar to the EU is probably because it is not possible. The hatred in your region goes so deep and has existed for so long. To think that we could magically change that is crazy. The US was in a Cold War with Russia, lost hundreds of thousands of men to the Germans, and dropped an Atomic bomb on Japan...all within the last century. Today, we are allies with no ill will towards any. We fought for our Independence from England and today they are our biggest ally. The "Cold hearted" people of the US are nothing of the sort. We do not hold grudges and are some of the most reasonable people on Earth. We try to understand why events took place that cause us pain and learn from them to move forward. Tolerance is at every fabric of our society. Until the Middle East region can come to look forward instead of concentrating on the past, you will never achieve what you seek.

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Jaff Sassani



Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Posts: 24 Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:07 pm Post subject:
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Your answer is understandable. The USA as the super power with lot of interest in the Middle East development and need for your help to the right direction. The absent of the meaning full action will bring Islamic Terrorist to power in the Middle East that will make the USA to lose lot of it’s interest and bring the Europeans people to direct collision with the Islamic terrorist which will bring your country back to the theater to defend what you call “The Europeans are the forefathers of our nation” isn’t it.
You say “We are damned if we do, and damned if we don't”. It is true. We in the Middle East hate each other for reason not known to your leadership in the USA and Europe.
Let go back to more than 1500 years ago. We the Aryan (Iranian) did had lot of wars with the Europeans people even both side was the Aryan blood then. Then Islam and Turk come to the theater the war got intensified with the Europeans. The Aryan people in Europeans (your forefathers) lost lot of the territory and we the Aryan (Iranian) become slaves and lost our dignity, our pride, our history, our land as a nations and become slave and subordinate of the Arab imperialist and Turkish Imperialist to this day. We are suffering now and you do not have any knowledge about our suffering.
We are not the same people in the Middle East as your people and your forefather’s people calling us the Middle Eastern people. We are Aryans (Iranians), Turk and Arab. We know the word Aryans will bring back the memory of the German in world war two that is why we write Iranian between the prentices so the Jewish people in the world won’t hate us and hopefully they understand that the Iranian under our forefather thee Cyrus the Great liberated them then We the Aryan (Iranian) people did not harmed the Jewish people in the history as we know. We are seeking friendship with all the people on earth just like the American people does.
We are not one community as you are saying. We like to have our own Union alone but if the Turkish people want to unite with us that will be welcomed. We do not want to Unite with the Arabs unless they give back our lands in Iraq, Syria, Kuwait, Part of Saudi land, Bahrain, Qatar, UAE and Amman plus part of the Yemen land. As you can see it is impossible to achieve that without war and we are tired of war.
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