Ey Shir-e Panjabi:
Aqa jan, how are you? I hope well.
Thanks alot for you post.
You welcome Punjabi.
about my user ID, in Punjabi that actually means 'Tiger of Punjab' (or Lion of Punjab according to some).
Ahhhhhhhhh I get it now! I am beginning to get used to your Punjabi accent!
OK as you mentioned, Punjabi lingo originated from Persian & you are basically our off shoot cousins. Well damn, you even look like my cousin Sarang from Caspian Sea Shores, he is great Trouble Maker!
What you call today:
Sher-e Punjab
is actually in Persian:
Shir-e Panjab
Shir = Lion
Shir-e = A Lion from
Panjab = Panjab Province
Yes, the famous Shir-e Panjab.
Now have in mind,
Sher => She'r = poem
That was the confucion!
I think that this may be true of Baluchistan and perhaps parts of Pakistan's 'North West Fronteir Province' (NWFP). Punjab prior to the British occupation had at that time emerged as a nation state under Sikh leadership and included parts of Afghanistan and Jammu-Kashmir
Yes indeed. Thats what I said, "Western Pakistan". Also as you said, North Western Pakistan. So yes, we are basically talking about Baluchistan area.
Interestingly though, Punjab continued to use Persian as its official state and court language even under indigenous rule. It was only because of the British and the Indian immigrants they brought with them to Punjab that Persian was discarded and replaced with Urdu (a language from India's heartland).
Yes, them God Damn English! them beedi eyed English! Have you noticed their eyes are crooked?!
It must be all the turtle soup & fish & chips that they eat! 8-[
Damn Fish & Chips, dedication of English to world cusine! Where would we be & what would we eat without them?!
Im fine with that, but i dont think it will find too much favor with most Punjabis though if it were to be put forward now. Also Punjab is divided between two countries at present. Currently, i think Afghanistan and Uzbekistan would be a natural fit for a Persian Union. Both would definitely benefit.
Actually, Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Afghanistan, Tajikistan, Pakistan, Bahrain, Iraq plus Iran will make a great "Persian Union" or revival of Persian Empire. Only then, they will be relevant in global economy.
Now if you guys (Punjabis), might have a problem with Pakistan's entry in this union, then what the hell, we just have to divide Pakistan in half & keep the western part in the Union & give the Eastern part to yous to create your independant nation including Punjab + Parts of Kashmir!
I would say Iraq, but i guess thats more of an Arab nation. Despite its historical relationship with the Persian mainland.
Iraq has a unique situation in the Arab world. Iraq was basically one state of The Persian Empire called Mesopotamia or best said "Khashtara of Mesopotamia" (State of Mesopotamia). For God's sake, Capital of Persian Empire (Sassanids) was Ctesiphone (Today's Baghdad)! After Savage Arabo_Muslim Tazi Hounds, destroyed & burned down Ctesiphone, years later, they built Baghdad on top of it. You can go near Baghdad & still witness the ruins of Ctesiphone. Ctesiphone was the most glorious city of her time. It was like New York City of that Era! Cruise through History section of IPC Website & you will see many references, in my books, on Ctesiphone.
I have to put this book back online (Islamisto_Yahoo Liberalo Sabotage of IPC)
Ctesiphone in Smoke, Fire & Blood
http://hometown.aol.com/ahreemanxii/page14.htmlHeres some views of Ctesiphone
http://hometown.aol.com/ahreemanxii/page35.htmlSo anyhow, Iraq has a history of being a part of Persian Empire & thats why Iraqi culture is very close to Iran, Iraqi food is very similar to Iran & very different than Arab food. Iraqi music is close to Iran & their culture is very similar to Iran. So indeed, we must return Iraq & Bahrain to the Persian Union (eventhough they are considered Arab nations). Both of them have closer ties to Iran than to Arabs!
Iraq & Bahrain are basically non Arabs forced to speak Arabic & shoved to swallow Islam down their throats! Give us a decade of Persian Union & we cleanup their race by some Aryan Persian Intermixing! We will Persianize them via some Hard-Core Sexual Breeding! 8-[
However, i am not an Indian and reject anything to do with India or Indians
Yes, you people have a closer tie to Iran than to India or Pakistan. You are very similar to Parsis of India. They are practically Persians! The only reason that they are in Bombay, is because they escaped the Invasion of Islam to Iran! Punjabis remind me of Parsis.
But then again, I understand the sense of Nationalism amongst Punjabis. I doubt if either India or Pakistan would ever allow Punjab to become an indepenent nation. This is more like a fantasy, same as Kashmir's indipendence! Actualy in the future, there is a much larger chance of the Persian Union than the Independence of Punjab, happening! Consider mathematical odds & possibilities & you might agree with me!
There has been a separatist movement in East Punjab for decades. From the mid 80's until the early 90's it was an armed struggle, but no longer due to a number of different reasons. I support the independence of Punjab from India but not the actual movement which is based on the ideology of having a 'Sikh state' called 'Khalistan'. I've seen the results of religious regimes in Iran and Afghanistan and dont want to see the same in East Punjab. Doesnt matter it its Sikh and not Muslim, the results will be the same no doubt.
Yes, Khalistan! Have you noticed IRI's emblem is similar to Khalistan's logo?! Have you wondered why? Because Khomeini was originally Indian & he copied the Sikh logo to the Persian flag! That son of a Tazi Hindu Hound!
He despised Indian Culture & Persian Culture. He took an oath to destroy both! Well he almost destroyed one!
He copied Khalistan's Sikh flag's logo to our flag by slight revisions for it to be read Allah! I had a full section in old IPC Club about transformation of Sikh logo to Allah logo of IRI with many graphics & flags but along with rest of our material, Islamo Fascists & Yahoo Liberals deleted them! I have to recreate them again!
Here check it out:
Khalistan's Sikh Flag:
Islamic Republic of Khomeini's Flag:
Khalistan's Sikh Logo:
Islamic Republic of Khomeini's Logo:
Basically the same Shiite, no?!
Sikhism is also interesting. Eventhough it has inspired by both Hinduism & Islam. It took elements from both such as Reincarnation of Hinduism yet mono God of Islam, etc. etc.............., however Sikhs were one of the few ethnicities whom during later years, fought the Islamic Invasion by claws & teeth!
Punjabi Jan,
This is really amazing, think about it! Punjabis have a closer tie to Persians than to Indians or Pakis! As you said, they would be even speaking Persian today & if it wasn't because of the British policy of Division & Conquer, we would be one!
I am not hot on separatism. I am hot on Unions & Federalism. I believe in fair share unions & federal government. I believe, if we give total internal autonomy to states, then we can expect total obidient of the federal government from them. Perfect example is USA & Germany's federal system. For example, Iran is land of many ethnicities & they been trying to separate for decades! Why? Because central government treats them like Shiite!
If we bring federalism to Iran, then we will be assured that Kurds, Azeri Turks, Baluchis, Arabs, Turkmens, etc. will not sing separatist songs no more. Actually, not that I am not ready to giveaway an inch of Persian soil away to separatists, yet I am ready for a future "Persian Union" to even bring more & more independent nations back to Mother Persia. And I promise you, this will happen, simply because it is logical & it is needed & it is beneficial for All.
Now, I do not know about India but tell me, aren't they running a democratic nation with federalism in mind? If so, then why separate? Aren't rights of Punjabis respected?
You do not have to tell me about Pakistan! I know Islamic internal Shambles also exists there like any other Islamic state! I imagine rights of ethnic groups are not flourishing in Pakistan!
I am also agreed with you on the issue of Sikh ruled nation can be tricky! When separation of Religion & State becomes hazy, thats when bozos like Khomeini come to power! We must always separate those two! But then again, you do understand that there is no separation of Mosque & Government in Islam!
Government has been & is & will be a part of Mosque. This is the Islamic Way since Mohan (Muhammed)!
Shir-e Panjab, its nice to have you here. Are you living in USA? You have a very long beard (avatar)! When your beard gets longer than your waist & covers your Haji Kuchike, thats the alert for you to keep it trimed! Also, make sure you will not wear Sikh Turbans, cause it was the other day that they killed that poor Sikh guy in south by mistaking him for a Muslim! The poor guy got Shahid (Martyred) for nothing! I wonder if he will be qualified for the Islamic Heaven, eventhough he was not a Muslim!? Will he get his 72 virgins?!
God Damn, I cannot call you a Paki or Indian! Then what the Frag, I guess I will be calling you a Persian!
Cheers Punjabi
Sign,
Someone hanging by a slim thread of Allah's Testicles, up in the air, holding on to Allah's Matso Balls so tight & about to fall down to the Hot Flaming Land of Satan!
Satanic X