Bache Kuni Trial

[IPC]

Trial of Bache Kuni

Law and Order
IPC Style

People vs BK
(IPC Members vs Bache Kooni)

Special Case
This is an interesting case and the first case of its kind! The verdict of this trial will decide on this case and the future alike cases in IPC. This case will be used as the reference case for future similar cases in IPC.

This thread is not a joke. This thread is the official Trial of BK as requested and filed by Moderator of IPC to decide on BK's life and existence in IPC. Moderator of IPC wanted to take immediate action, but we begged him to allow a trial, before immediate action against BK!

The Law and your guide is the:
Constitution of IPC
http://iranpoliticsclub.net/club/viewtopic.php?t=7

Liberator's Logic
BK is spaming IPC in these manners:
1. BK is mass posting meaningless posts and anime
2. BK is creating multiple screennames
3. BK is wasting IPC memory space
Spamers must die.
BK is a spamers.
BK must be dealt with.

Webmistress logic
BK is intentionally disrupting IPC

Our suspicions
BK is a suspect for:
1. Creating pornographer screennames whom are having gay porn sites as their posted urls (we deleted/banned a few).
2. Registering IPC Op members' e-mails on gay porn sites as members, so these sites are sending gay porn mails to IPC Op members' accounts including Ahreeman's account.
3. Disrupting IPC
4. Creating an environment of chaos, vulgarity and interruptions to bring the intellectual level of IPC down, so no intelligent reader will join IPC as a new member (sabotage IPC).

Liberator - DA (District Attorney)
Will act as the DA (District Attorney) aka Prosecutor. He will present his case in this manner:
- BK's alleged crimes (accusations)
- Logic behind these charges
- Evidence
- Witnesses if any
- Requested punishment for BK
- Trial arguments and debates
- Closing argument

Amir - DC (Defence Counselor)
Will act as defendant's Counselor (Attorney). As long as Amir is the only lifeline for BK, and BK is Amir's pet, then Amir will act as BK's Defending Attorney. Amir will present his case and argue his logic.

IPC Members (Jury - Witnesses)
Can testify as witnesses to BK's alleged atrocities, crimes and other misdeeds. They will also act as The Jury and vote at the end of the trial to decide BK's faith and desired punishment. Every IPC member can testify, present his/her opinion, logic and argument. Finally IPC members will act as the jury. The Jury are those IPC members who will bother to testify, argue and finally vote in this trial. The Jury (majority of those IPC members who bother to vote in this trial) will decide BK's faith.

IPC Office (Judge)
We have started this Trial (Thread) at the request of Liberator and according to the file, which has been filed by Liberator to decide on BK's faith in IPC. We follow the trial in silence and allow the DA, DC (Defence Counselor), Witnesses and The Jury to present their cases and decide on BK's faith. We will act as the silent judge.

Note
As a moderator of IPC, Liberator has a special veto power. Liberator can ultimately set aside Jury's verdict and act as BK's prosecutor, judge, jury and Executioner! IPC Office acts only as a formality Judge. IPC Office only starts this thread and acts as an honorary Judge, yet Liberator will reserve the right to carry and deliver the final judgment on BK's life. At the end of the trial, it all comes down to Liberator. Of course, Liberator will listen to everyone before he makes his final judgement or if he desires, set aside jury's verdict and release his own verdict. So at the end of the trial, Liberator has two choices:

a) Obey Jury's verdict (majority of those IPC members who bother to vote in this trial) on BK's faith
b) Set aside Jury's verdict and release his own verdict on BK's faith

Burden of proof
In US Judicial Law, one must be proven guilty, without the reasonable doubt, to be found guilty of a crime. So:
- DA must prove beyond the reasonable doubt (American judicial system) that BK is guilty.
- DC must create reasonable doubt in BK's guilt, and therefore to prove BK's innocense!

At the end of the trial, Liberator (District Attorney) will decide on what punishment to ask from the Judge! Then DA will ask for the proper punishment. At the end of the trial, DA can ask the court for one, more or all counts of convictions for crimes of the defendant.

Crimes and Punishments
Depending on the Jury, Judge or Liberator's Veto Power, different degrees of punishments for different crimes can be imposed on BK. Remember that DA can ask the court for one, more or all counts of convictions for crimes of the defendant:


Crime
Punishment
_________________


Intellectual Poverty and Chaotic Behavior (Criminal Negligence)
Warning - probation (as requested by DA) - conditional existence in IPC - close surveillance

Criminal Fraud and Grand Ignorance 2 (Manslaughter 2)
Take away BK's privilege (not right) to post in IPC. To post in IPC is not a right, but a privilege. All BK's present/future screennames will be able to only read IPC in silence but not able to post.

Criminal Fraud and Grand Ignorance 1 (Manslaughter 1)
Delete all BK's posts by all BK screennames.

Spam and Sabotage 2 (Murder 2)
Ban BK temporarily (Ban all present/future BK IPs/screennames for a limited period as will be decided)

Spam and Sabotage 1 (Murder 1)
Ban BK forever (Ban all present/future BK IPs/screennames forever)

By the power invested in us by the constitution of IPC, we declare this trial, officially open.

All Rise .............

IPC Office

[Liberator]

Distinguished members of the jury, your honor, ladies and gentlemen,

Emam Kooni has created chaos and tried to hijack threads ever since he first set foot here. He has spammed the board with his cartoons and useless comments, some which are not even readable. Emam Kooni has shown no interest in pursuing an intellectual debate and has shown no interest in Persian culture or history. Although we have been able to have a laugh at this rabid dog thanks to the patronage of Amir, it is in the belief of the D.A. that it's time to dispose ourselves of this clown who is here to destroy intellectual debate, on this very forum which is supposed to encourage intellectual debates. Therefore the D.A. lays out it's case as:

Whereas,

-Emam Kooni and Fadeyagan's IP addresses are extremely similar, and the service provider the same, and their posts following the same pattern of Emam Kooni's previous useless comments

-Elahe Kooni's posts also follow the above pattern although the service provider is different which can be explained by the simple fact that Emam Kooni has posted "Elahe Kooni" posts from a different computer that is connected to a different service provider.


Whereas,

-Emam Kooni has multiple personality disorder; when assuming one personality he posts on the same intellectual level as a 4 year old would post and when assuming the second personality attempting to come across as sophisticated but failing miserably in that as well.


Whereas,

-Emam Kooni and his multiple usernames post utter nonsense and also spams the forum with worthless garbage animations.

http://www.iranpoliticsclub.net/club/vi ... ight=#4376
http://www.iranpoliticsclub.net/club/vi ... ight=#4384
http://www.iranpoliticsclub.net/club/vi ... c&start=15
http://www.iranpoliticsclub.net/club/vi ... ight=#4535
http://www.iranpoliticsclub.net/club/vi ... ight=#4454
http://www.iranpoliticsclub.net/club/vi ... ight=#4447
http://www.iranpoliticsclub.net/club/vi ... ight=#4329


Whereas,

Emam Kooni tries to hijack threads.

http://www.iranpoliticsclub.net/club/vi ... ight=#4309


Whereas,

Emam Kooni creates worthless threads, that do not fit in any room of the forum and can only be infered as TBK having the intention to spam the forum.

http://www.iranpoliticsclub.net/club/vi ... ight=#4048


Whereas,

Emam Kooni is obsessed with gay porn and makes gay animations to satisfy his psychological and perhaps physical needs and would be better off posting on a gay forum dedicated to porn involving the same sex

http://www.iranpoliticsclub.net/club/vi ... ight=#4137


Whereas,

Emam Kooni praises His Majesty Reza Pahlavi but switches from time to time and tries to depict him as a "SAVAKI"; again trying to tear down this forum as a safehaven for intellectual debate.

http://www.iranpoliticsclub.net/club/vi ... ight=#3813
http://www.iranpoliticsclub.net/club/vi ... c&start=75

Whereas,

-Emam Kooni is in violation of the 1st, 4th, and 9th Amendment of the IPC Constitution and the Spamming Policy of IPC.


Whereas,

All these actions on behalf of Emam Kooni and his multiple usernames are seen as a coordinated effort to lower the quality of this board, flood it with useless garbage, and with the ultimate goal of turning people away from IPC

It is in the opinion of the D.A. that:

1) Emam Kooni's e-lifeline is immediately terminated!

2) Emam Kooni's multiple usernames are banned for life so that he does not come back to pursue his agenda of spamming the board

3) Emam Kooni is laid to rest in IPC Spammers graveyard!



Ba Sepaas

[Amir]

Finally, TBK will be able to use his catch word “honorableâ€

[Atusa Qajar]

Sociologist Expert and Witness for defense, permission to testify?

Dear Court and Members:

I believe you are giving too much air time to BK and this is what she wants, Attention! Why do you think she creates 3 screen names, makes stupid remarks to everyone's post and runs her mouth without having a clue about the subject in which she is writing about? Attention, Attention and more Attention.

BK is an American illiterate (literally) person, who has no clue about Iranian politics, history or any other topic in IPC. She is trying to make up for her lack of knowledge, by pretending that she makes these spelling mistakes, historical errors and information goof ups, intentionally! The errors that she makes are so huge and so obvious that one like

Lori thought she is making these errors intentionally and pretends to be a complete idiot.
CR thought she is making these errors to intentionally disrupt IPC.
BB thought she is making these errors because she is a complete idiot.
CA thought she is making these errors because she is a problemed person.

All of the above maybe correct but I believe BK is truly an imbecile ignorant little pest which she is trying to cover up her shortcomings by pretending her goofs to be as intentional errors for fun!

Either way, I believe you guys must

1. Stop giving BK so much attention (what she wants) and air time.
2. Don't ban her. Why do you want to ban her? Because she is an idiot? Must you ban all idiots?
3. Let her play around IPC rooms. Look at her as a messy pet who can from time to time keep us amused with her idiotic tricks, pranks and grand ignorance!

I understand that BK surely reduces the intellectual level, the prestige and the scientific environment of IPC down near to the toilet level, but look at her as a pesky dog. Give her attention and she shiites all over place, but ignore her and she will bark and scratch the couch for a shortwhile and then she will shut up and fade away.

BK is not the first ignoramus, uneducated, foul mouth, nasty, hostile, mental, basket case person with issues, who walked in IPC and put on a show, so why are you making a Grand Case about this pet? Does she annoy you? Yes she does! But there were worst cases than BK in IPC! Look through over 6 years history of the club (old yahoo club + new club) and you can review tens and tens of annoying pests like BK! What makes BK so special, that you allow her to get on your nerves so badly to make a trial, wanting to ban her or set so much air time for her?

I believe you guys are over reacting. BK is only a small pest, nothing more! While you are bringing the Constitution into this, passing new laws, analyzing her as a spamer, argue over killing her or not, and for God's sake paying so much attention to her, and more; you need to step back, look at the big view and recognize that BKs come and go and there were plenty of BKs in IPC's past and there will be plenty more BKs in IPC's future, just let go, ignore her, have fun with her and let her live like a little crippled poppy with rabies who lives in your back yard! But don't make a grandeur issue about her, because that is what she is seeking: Attention, Recognition and a Response from you!

I understand that BK can get on your nerves, she even got on my nerves! Why do you think BK acts this way? If you let her to get on your nerves and if you show her any feed back (positive or negative), then you feed her ego! Can't you see that BKs of the world are people with too much time on their hands that no one gives them the time of day, so that's why they seek attention and recognition in places like IPC? Don't give her the pleasure to annoy you into giving her the attention that she seeks!

What are you going to do? Pass laws, create amendments, argue constitution and set trials to ban every little pesky pest who walks in IPC to disrupt the place? If so, then they won and you lost! Don't you think you have better things to do than giving so much recognition to an illiterate ignorant child like BK?

Ask yourselves, what would have Ahreeman done? He would've allowed everyone to speak and to express themselves, even complete morons such as BK! He wouldn't shut them up, but he would Bull Shiite with them or completely ignore them (depending on how much time he has). He would never allow them to get on his nerves, neither he would set them a stage and put the spot light on them! BKs of the world are too small and microscopic for you to get upset over them. They are cockroaches to you.

Don't make likes of BK, more than what they are, which are little pests. Live and let live, play around with them, have fun or ignore them but do not set them a stage and let them have a show in IPC! You are making too much of these bacteria lifeforms such as BK!

I'm sorry to inform you guys, but I believe you guys must get a clue!

[CR]

Defense Council, Honorable Judge and Court

I am going to pull an executive decision using my executive power status to address DC's requests. Consider me as the Supreme Court's Head Justice who is pulling rank by interfering in this US District Court's business. I am doing executive action for one reason! DA presented a typical solid case to convict this Microbe, ten times over (Liberator Style), but I am curious to see how can Amir possibly, defend this Microbe!!!! Defending a serial killer would be easier! Your wish is granted!

"It is highly irregular for the DC not to be informed of an impending case without ample time to prepare. I now find out last minute, while my potential client is dragged into court? In exchange, I request extra leniency from your Honor in my future petitions."

I on behalf of the Judge, apologize for the short notice and order the court for extra leniency for your future petitions and preparations.

[quote]"As DC, I demand proper disclosure to all the evidence. If evidence exists as to the above, I must be given access to it with ample time to prepare a defense. It can be presented to me either via a public post or private post. If such evidence truly exists, I will be forced to change my strategy from a “not guiltyâ€

[Liberator]

Now if the defense council decides to acknowledge the crimes of the accused we shall set the date of e-execution for June 30, 2006, one day before our Tirgan Celebrations begin

I ask the court that the e-execution of TBK and its other usernames shall be by electric chair.

The sentence will take place in Dr X's basement where we have everything set up:

http://users.bestweb.net/~rg/execution/ ... 0VIEWS.jpg
[image is too large and stretches the page,
so it has been turned to a link.]
(IPC Office)

TBK has been reserved a place in the IPC Spammers Graveyard and will be transported to this location where he will be laid to rest.

So without further ado i'm getting impatient



Ba Sepaas

[IPC]

Dear Court:

We would like to emphasize on one specific alleged crime, mentioned by DA:

Hijacking Threads
(Trashing Threads)

The worst crime is this one, where the defendant has been intestinally hijacking the threads, distort them and twist them into a completely different direction. For instance take a look at the very important thread "Monarchy vs Republic" in politics room, where there are dozens and dozens of important debates on the topic in there, but all of a sudden BK jumps in (as he jumped in any other threads and destroyed them), and changed the direction of a thread towards nonsense and trashy meaningless chit chats which have nothing to do with the topic!

We would like to direct both DA and DC to emphasize on this particular crime more than others.

We will continue keeping our silence during the court procedures. We encourage witnesses/IPC members to testify as DA or DC's witnesses.

Dear Court, please proceed ............

[Amir]

Distinct Court Members:

It is a pleasure for me to accept this case.

I pulled an executive order and ordered this court/judge to accommodate you on "ALL" of your above motions!

I thank the esteemed CR, whose gracious efforts allowed me to take on this case.

Quote:
"I request an ample supply of Alpo brand dog food for my client to last for the remainder of the trial."


Would you agree on Beggin Strips and Generic brand by pound, existing in courthouse storage?

Done! My client won’t know the difference.

Gay Doggy sex? Not in this courthouse vicinity, but at the corner of the court's yard, behind bushes, and only with mussels (no doggy heat noise), is allowed.

Yes, of course. My client’s right to sexual orientation must be respected. His animal rights must also be respected.

Thank you for the accommodations. Yet again, my client won’t know the difference.


--------------------------

Now, many wonder why I chose to accept such a challenge. As CR pointed out, it’s like defending Stalin or Hitler. This is true. But everyone is entitled to a defense, no matter how heinous the crime. However, a more fitting analogy would be Jeffrey Dahmer. Or even closer, Buffalo Bill from Silence of the Lambs (my client’s favorite movie).

The other reason why I accepted the challenge was because this is a slam dunk case for the DA. No-one expects TBK to get off. This is a no-win case for the defense. As such, it is win-win for the defense counsel. I have nothing to lose. If I lose the case, it will be expected and I will not be faulted. If I win, I will shock the world. In either case, I will receive tremendous publicity and will attract many future clients. Amir is all about the $$$$.



On to the case…


As CR also pointed out, it would appear that my only defense would be to plead insanity on behalf of TBK. The thought crossed my mind. However, after considering the possible damning testimony of Dr. B B, the official psychiatrist and designated expert, I realized that this defense would backfire on me. B B would certainly testify that TBK is not legally insane, but just psychologically traumatized by his gender identity crisis and his obsession to wear transvestite clothes and dance in front of the mirror “Buffalo Bill style.â€

[Shahrzad BB]

Ladies and Gentlemen of the Jury, Your honor, dear court and club:
Psychiatrist of the board, DA's witness is testifying about Bache Kooni's Soon To Be Destiny in IPC

I admit I have failed BK. I could not help her. She is one of my failed cases! Lib is partially responsible for this failure because he sent the patient to me very late and by then she was in her last stages of her disease, her alter states, her chaotic multiple personality lunacy. But Lib can make up for his lack of speed by quick expiration of patient BK!

Lib for EXECUTIONER

Go Lib Go


All good things must come to an end and so is BK's life in IPC!

Lib must execute BK soon as possible!

Die BK Die!
Die Kooni Die



At last BK will get FRIED! :D
Can't Wait!
Haw Haw Haw Haw
busted and electrocuted

Psychiatrist of the board
Dr. BB

[Emam Kooni]

[b]I am utterly taken by the devotion, loyalty, and support of my subjects, namely the Liberator and Procto-Psychologist BB’s .

1. I question not the freedom of expression of opinions, but imposition of will, values, and strait jacket advocated by the above Discredited.

2. Isn’t it vividly laminating that both members are SHAHI’s, void of the Spirit of Freedom which is bestowed upon all Free Men, as reflected through the Spirit and the Substance of The Constitution of The U.S.A. and the Amendments.

3. Isn’t it vividly illuminating that Intolerance laminates the cornerstone of the Ideologies and Philosophies of the above Discredited, whoes ways and traditions render mass conformity and compliance a code. And, divergence from such code will descend the penalty of Capital Punishment or, shall we say, physical teleportation of the accused to absentia, complements of SAVAK. And, in accordance to their agenda, all shall submissively bend over and accommodate a handful few Royals, or else ! Have U been marked Non-Royal, yet?

4. The above Discredited are, shall we say, “Speaking Headsâ€

[Amir]

My dear pet:

Why do you never listen? As your attorney, I advised you to keep your mouth shut and let me do the talking for you. I didn’t call you to the stand. In fact, I told you to take the Fifth. You are blowing the case for me! Yet another demonstration of TBK doing a good job of “blowing.â€

[Emam Kooni]

Oh grate Klingon Sopke:

Klingon Amir

[Liberator]

Dear members of the court,

Objection! DA is attempting to bypass the trial and go straight to the punishment. L-man, chill with the trigger finger. He must be found guilty first.

Defense council will have to excuse me, for some reason I thought everything was crystal clear to everyone! We will proceed with the trial since it is clear you have decided to take on the impossible.

For the records I would like to restate that the Defense council has acknowledged the accused party (TBK) being guilty of violating the 1st, 4th, 9th Amendment of the IPC Constitution which were charges brought forth by the DA. Therefore we can conclude that Defense have pleaded guilty to the charges brought forth by the DA however have brought a whole new case upon which the trial should be based, whether this is a reasonable request I leave it for the Judge to decide. If the appeal for the trial to be based on a totally different basis in denied, then I would like that punishment is carried out as soon as possible.

We must do our best to uphold the principles under which IPC was founded by its Founding Fathers…aka Ahreeman. I do not believe that it was his intent to limit the freedom of the existence of those such as TBK.

Objection you Honor. Speculating on behalf of someone else.

I hereby challenge the enforceability of IPC’s Constitution. I claim that the Constitution can be interpreted not as a minimum standard which would require electrocution by anyone failing to reach its demands, but as an ideal for which its members ought to strive.

If rules and laws are meant to be "ideals" that society should strive for then we would be living in a lawless society. Dear members of the jury, why do we have laws in our society? Why do we for example deem rape to be illegal and something that should be punished? We have laws to uphold the rule of law and we enforce the law in order to deter people from breaking it and for punishing those who break it. Breaking the law jeapordizes the peaceful society which we seek to live in. If we were to allow people to roam around free doing as they wish and "advicing" them to "follow ideals" there would be utter chaos! Some individuals might not want to strive for any ideals such as the accused party in this trial. If a rapist was adviced to follow an ideal, but knowing that if he didn't there would be no repurcussions, do you members of the jury think that would deter him from carrying out his crime? No it wouldn't; it would in fact encourage him and other criminals to increase their illegal activities. The very same can be applied to spammers and those who seek to disrupt freedom of speech.

If one is in accord with Amendment 5, and exercises his right to hold nothing sacred, he may run into discord with Amendment 1, which demands protection and servitude of the Persian Culture. These two amendments could potentially be in conflict with each other, if we encounter a Taazi wanna-be (such as TBK). He holds nothing sacred (in accordance with A5), and is in violation of A1. In fact, no Taazis should be allowed in here if we are going to enforce A1. Furthermore, all foreigners who don’t particularly care about Persian Culture ought not be allowed in here either. Yet, A4 points out that EVERYONE (including foreigners) are welcome here

Here I would like to call for an official representative of IPC Office to set clear what Amendement 1 of the IPC Constitution entails and other amendaments whose interpretation have been brought into question.

Amendment 1 of the IPC Constitution states:

1st Amendment.
Iran Politics Club's mission is to protect and serve the Persian Culture.

Can IPC then intervene in the day to day activities of the board and "protect and serve Persian Culture" from those who seek to trash it? If so how would IPC intervene:

1) By constantly engaging in a discussion with the accused party; which would waste a lot of time and space on the board.

2) By warning the accused party to stop repeating their offense and if continued then ban him.

3) Other ways?

With that having been stated defense council has chosen to interprete the "Nothing here is sacred!" sentence within Amendment 5 very literally. Members of the jury, can we not conclude what is reasonable and what is not. If we take the "Nothing here is sacred!" sentence literally then rape, murder, spamming etc would all be allowed would it not?

Since it's the interpretation of the Constitution that has been brought into question here it is imperative for IPC Office or the Founder to take to the stand and set the record straight once and for all, as it is clear the Constitution is being interpreted in different ways.

In fact, no Taazis should be allowed in here if we are going to enforce A1. Furthermore, all foreigners who don’t particularly care about Persian Culture ought not be allowed in here either.

Again we need clarification on the powers of IPC in serving and protecting Persian Culture in order to be able to address this.

[quote]Furthermore, A4 could potentially be in conflict with itself. As DA points out, TBK is in violation of this Amendment because he is foolish and does not conform to an “intellectual standard.â€

[Liberator]

I demand that the Court Officer restrain the accused party!





Ba Sepaas

[Emam Kooni]

I demand that the Court Officer restrain the accused party!

Where is the party Liberator? It certainly is not after the accused!

There is nothing more Discrediting that the Discredited Liberator forcing upon himself to talk lawyerly, considering the fact that he had problems with plain English, not withstanding his shortcomings with Farsi, since as U have noticed he uses Turkish alphabet to site! What a un-Iranian Sacrilege and a direct insult to Persian language and History!

Herewithin I produce a credible testimony of a former 'CLOSE' asssociate of the Liberator:

Liberator is Impostor Turk !