What is happening??

[LOJ]

Hello people, what is wrong with this room or club or is it just me, there haven't been any formal debates since 2008, and then that one wasn't up to par. I have belonged to this club since 2002, April I beileve, and Doc and I used to tear up the place with debates.....although he eventually became overly defensive due to being wrong all the time !
I have been traveling promoting my book and have had a lot of time to think, we need the old style club back, where people aren't afraid to post or disagree with AhreemanX.

To begin with my opinion on Ah"deceit"ahjad, is that he is denying the holocust due to setting up a precursor for a defense mechanism against the USA.
See this asshole knows there are camps like there were in the Holocust days that are right there in Iran and run by the govt. So he is coming out "again" with this BS that the holocust never happened, so when they do find these type of camps in Iran in the near future, he will have the perfect alibi,
"You see the USA is accusing our country "IRAN" of having camps like they did in Hitlers time, to get back at us for denying their holocust".

Now this is just an opinion.
This might not be the meat and bones of a good debate but c'mon people we have to start somewhere.
And Doc, btw: I have had a lot of people ask me about your club, are you getting any new members due to MOI? .
There I've had my say.......
Salut,
LoLo

[Lawrence Of Persia]

Hi LOJ.

I think the problem lies in Persian culture.
Persians were never a free people.
Persians never aspired to personal liberty.
Persians never even grasped the concept of personal liberty.
Persians were always the subjects of some king:

• sometimes a Persian king e.g. Cyrus the Great,
• sometimes a Greek king e.g. Alexander the Great,
• sometimes a Turkish king e.g. the Qajars.

But whoever the king was;
wherever he came from;
as long as he was a good king;
or at least not a bad king;
then Persians were happy and content.
Because they were always the subjects of their king,
they were never citizens of Persia.

In this, Persian civilization was and is inferior to

• Greek civilization
• Roman civilization
• Christian European civilization
• Anglo-American civilization
• the emerging World civilization

These civilizations succeeded and evolved because
they grasped the concept of individual personal liberty.
They aspired to achieve it.
And they worked and fought to achieve it.

Persians have never grasped the concept
of individual personal liberty.
Many Iranians in Exile still do not understand the concept!
Look at all the Iranian Monarchist political "opposition" parties!
They think the solution is a king!

The Persian language has only one word for freedom, azadi.
The Persian language has dozens of words for penis!
Shows you what Persians have been thinking and
dreaming about for thousands of years!
No wonder Persia failed!

Regards,
LOP

[Atusa Qajar]

Everything will be fine. Everything will work out fine.

[Nicholas Ginex]

Dear LOJ and LOP,

Very interesting comments that lets people think. A very good point by Lawrence of Persia. A people is programmed by the leadership and are used by the monarchs for their best interests.

Yet, in today's world, Iranians like people around the world, have greater access to an education and the Internet where they are not totally ruled by a central monarch. Like Dr. Ahreeman, many prople are becoming knowledgeable and are beginning to think for themselves. There are a lot of smart people in our world, but still, there is the threat of being fed misinformation by the corrupt news organizations in the United States.

How is it, that the secret CIA, since their formation on September 18, 1947, when President Harry S. Truman signed the National Security Act of 1947 into law, that the United States continues to fund this corrupt organization with billions of dollars every year??? The secret CIA was initially organized because the U.S. ledership wanted to find our what the hell are these Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs)???

The question one must get into their heads is, why do the American people and their leaders fund a secret organization, called the CIA, when they are not accountable to the President of the United States???

This organization is the greatest threat to the American people and countries around the world because throughout three quarters of a century they have become extremely strong militarily with the knowledge obtained and develeped from captured Extraterrestrials. The CIA has highly developed weapons using the phenomenal scientific knowledge of zero-point energy that have led to other innovations that allows transport of space ships accross the galaxies.

I will say no more, for all readers should do their own research and not listen to an author who has devoted over 40 years on an organization that has got to be dismantled in the next few years. Perhaps, Americans will be wise enough to read the 3rd edition of a book just published titled, "Enjoy Free Energy and Life Throughout the Universe". Search for it on the Internet and read why concerned people want to know more. Do you???